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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:01 pm 
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Has anyone here ever seen any original Hyperpak insignia as it came from factory? Wondering if it had its own typeface/font like most mopar models and package variants. Looking for anything, even if it was just something printed in a brochure or promotional material.

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On the Valiant logo (the double sided blue/red solid V inside a circle) - I have noticed plenty of parts that claim NOS and some have a pretty rich shade of blue and some have more of a confederate blue/grey. I used to run a letterpress, one of the base colors used for mixing is called Reflex Blue, in printing world it is known as a fugitive color, that is it will actually disappear over time (not rapidly, but it does). I am wondering if there is a definitive answer as to if there were multiple shades of blue used or if what I am seeing in some instances is the color fleeting - especially noticeable on grill emblems that side can end up pretty much white even if the red is still well in tact. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:43 am 
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Hi Nick,

I don't have any educated answers to your questions.. but welcome to the Forum.


Where are you located in the pittsburgh area?

We have active users in irwin, mckeesport, and west mifflin.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:13 pm 
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Hi Greg thanks for the welcome.
I'm in Polish Hill, in town.
I've heard of your car while poking around for my own Hyperpak build.
Are you near Pgh?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:37 pm 
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I am in Irwin. Originally from south hills area.


I have more space out here for slants and other MoPar junk. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:39 pm 
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Since the Hyper Pak wasn't a "factory" model would it have had an emblem?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:15 am 
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I do not recall ever seeing or hearing about a Hyperpak emblem or insignia. Best of luck.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:31 am 
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Hyperpack press photos and the Nascar photos just show "Valiant" stickers on the air cleaner and valve cover.
I suppose you could use that font, or the "Charger" font from the 60's air cleaner stickers, if you wanted to make your own emblem.

As far as the Valiant insignia, check out horn buttons. They don't seem to fade out like the external ones.
The colors may be slightly different since they are on plastic, but it should give you an idea.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:49 am 
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There was no Hyper Pak emblem, nameplate, decal, or other callout. See here for applicable decals. Blue used on half the Valiant V emblem varies: lighter on exterior emblems, darker on the '62-'65 horn button cap. Lighter and less red than Reflex Blue in all cases. Close to Process Blue in most cases. Confederate blue-grey = faded over the years; they weren't that way originally (though grey was used in lieu of blue in some of the earliest Valiant brochures and ads—not on the cars themselves). When restoring the painted emblems on the trunk lid, grille badge, etc, Plasti-Kote's Chrysler Blue and Universal Red are conveniently close matches to the original in a high-quality, durable paint product.

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I knew he couldn't stay away.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:03 pm 
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hyper_pak wrote:
I knew he couldn't stay away.

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He never said he was going to "stay away". He did say that he would be checking in from time-to-time. My guess is that he felt he could contribute something meaningful to this particular thread.

BTW, Dan, good to "see" you, and thanks for the info.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:34 am 
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GTS225 wrote:
BTW, Dan, good to "see" you, and thanks for the info.

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Yep, I agree.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:09 am 
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Yes, nice to see you, Dan. Thanks for the cool info.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:17 am 
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Miss you, Dan!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:17 pm 
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Thanks for all the info all! I thought the Hyperpak was a factory option, that was part of the stipulation of running them in their race category, no? Surely if it were somewhere there had to be promotional material for it I would think.. Seems as though if that does exist finding it might be impossible.

Thanks for all the info Dan, hopefully the alu block you sold me will be up and running this coming summer. I am curious to know what printing techniques and materials you used for the decal replication. If it is a digital print was your source art vector based?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:26 pm 
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SlantNick wrote:
Thanks for all the info all! I thought the Hyperpak was a factory option


Made and offered by the factory—sold only over the dealer parts counter. All what was required to homologate it for the races was that it be generally available to anyone who wished to buy it, not made specially for racers exclusively.

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I am curious to know what printing techniques and materials you used for the decal replication.


I gave close photos of old originals to my husband, who is an accomplished graphic designer and typographer. So he was able to identify and match the fonts, recreate elements like the Valiant stylised-V logo, and "digitally remaster" the decals for sendoff to a job shop specialising in high-temperature/high-durability decals (they aren't homemade). Later on I found my long-lost stash of NOS original Valiant decals, so we were able to compare: as close as can be to an exact match!


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