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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:35 am 
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I don't see why that wouldn't work. Could even be a "bolt on" affair.

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 am 
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Picking up the first of 2 engines today, an 82 Juice motor. Price was about right and I like the idea of hydraulic lifters for this project.

Now, to find another one... :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:58 am 
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I would really suggest talking to a knowledgeable staff member ( ie not sales, etc) at a company like ATI and get a feel from them as to your potential torsional crank issues, if any. You are really out in the weeds on this project, and hate to see such a unique project DOA disaster because of an early, easy to fix design assumption. You said you got the time, so its only the investment of a phone call.


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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:26 pm 
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I've spent some time talking to whoever would talk to me, some old hot rodders, some actually engineers, etc.

I've got more questions now than I did before!

Anyhow, got hosed on the first engine later that day because the guy claimed someone was going to pay him asking price for the engine. I declined to pay that much, then lo-and-behold 2 days later I receive a text asking if I was still interested.

He was asking $500, I offered $400. Now I'm thinking if I'm going to buy it, I'll offer $300 and not a penny more. Slants around here usually don't sell for $300 anyhow lol

Hmmmm...


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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:39 am 
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Possibly a rubber coupler normally used between transmission and driveshaft could be fitted between the engines?

I had a '77 BMW 530 that used one. About 40 bucks new.

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:45 am 
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I've been thinking about how to model a coupler using some sort of rubber component in an attempt to provide some "give" in the assembly due to frame flex etc. I think what will need to happen is the creation of a number of differing styles and types of couplers, and just see which one offers the best performance (NVH, longevity, ease of service, etc.).

I do believe I have a solution on how to modify the crank snout for attaching the coupler to the rear engine.

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
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I've spent some time talking to whoever would talk to me, some old hot rodders, some actually engineers, etc.

I've got more questions now than I did before!

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Then you are asking the right questions, no point in reinventing the wheel, just need to find those with knowledge rather then guessers.
Most of the reliable experts in the fields I meet, have little problem in stating they don't know, and I trust them for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
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I agree, maybe look at how the folks that couple multiple engines for tractor pulling or multi engine land speed vehicles do that.

You probably will not need anything as robust, but directionally maybe you could work up what they do.

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
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I have a solution on how to modify the crank snout for attaching the coupler to the rear engine.


Did you just buy a mig welder!!! :P :P :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:32 am 
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Haha, I have one, but I don't plan to use it on the crank! :shock:

A cutting tool will be the ticket here methinks.... :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:58 am 
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My forklift has a adapter that centers and bolts to the harmonic balancer off the crank to drive the main hydraulic pump. Its a short, about 8" long double u joint driveshaft with the 3 bolt flange going to the balancer and I think 6 spline going to the pump. The pump isn't much of a load but I'm sure the little driveshaft can take quite a load. I would try to find some sort of steel bellhousing first to mate both engines together, one that you could bolt up to one end and make a flange you could weld onto and dowel pin to the other for alignment. Then mill the ends square to each other. Some sort of coupler hidden in between both under the bellhousing.


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 Post subject: Re: Inline Slant 12
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:37 am 
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I hadn't thought of a driveshaft type setup. I'll have to put some thinking in to that one. I would prefer to keep the package as short as possible while keeping it easy to service. A short driveshaft would definitely handle power well.

Hmmmmm....

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