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| Author: | Christian [ Wed May 15, 2002 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | torsion bars / sway bars |
Hi there ! What sizes are those t-bars available ? Mine read "890" so I guess they´re .890 diameter. I haven´t measured my sway bar yet, what sizes were/are available ? Should I put a swaybar at the rear end ? I want this car to handle very well, I´ll only run it on the weekeneds due to fuel prices round here...  It can break my backbone, nevermind... Is harder(T/sway bar) really better ?charged@cityweb.de |
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| Author: | Christian [ Wed May 15, 2002 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
This is a 72 Duster 198/ 904 / 8 3/4rear charged@cityweb.de |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Wed May 15, 2002 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
(User Above) wrote: : Hi there ! : : What sizes are those t-bars available ? Mine : read "890" so I guess they´re .890 : diameter. I haven´t measured my sway bar : yet, what sizes were/are available ? Should : I put a swaybar at the rear end ? I want : this car to handle very well, I´ll only run : it on the weekeneds due to fuel prices round : here... It can break my backbone,: nevermind... Is harder(T/sway bar) really : better ? Those T-bars should be stiff enough for your car since that's what they used on big block Darts. I wouldn't go much stiffer on a street car - maybe 0.920 or 0.990" if you're really hardcore. I have 1.125" sway bars on the front of both my ('64 and '68) Darts. I wouldn't bother with a rear sway bar. I've tried them on my Dart and they don't appreciably help handling. The road racers I've talked to/heard of concur with this opinion (Mike Ritz - Team Starfish, and Richard Ehrenberg - Green Brick). Enjoy the Gs, Lou |
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| Author: | Dusteridiot [ Wed May 15, 2002 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
890? like part number 2535890 (and 891 on the left bar) Those should be stock for slant sixes and some 273/318 cars. Better ones are the V-8 "892" "893" bars or the big block cuda "894/895" bars what kind of car do you have? -D.Idiot res0aus2@verizon.net |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Thu May 16, 2002 6:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
(User Above) wrote: : 890? like part number 2535890 : : (and 891 on the left bar) : : Those should be stock for slant sixes and some : 273/318 cars. : : Better ones are the V-8 "892" : "893" bars : : or the big block cuda "894/895" bars : : what kind of car do you have? : : -D.Idiot WHOA! Good call D-man. It had not occured to me he was talking part numbers and not the bar measured diameter. I meant to say that 0.890" bars are what he wants for better handling, and I have no idea what the part numbers are. Koller Dodge or Mancini will have the T-bars for $120pr or so. Lou |
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| Author: | Christian [ Thu May 16, 2002 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
Hi guys, my t bars are stamped "890R" and "891L". Their diameter is about .850" Car is a 72Duster 198. Question: What to do to improve handling ? I have a front sway bar. The car is all torn apart for resto right now, so anything is possible. Has anyone a picture of installed subframe connectors ? charged@cityweb.de |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Fri May 17, 2002 5:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
(User Above) wrote: : Hi guys, : : my t bars are stamped "890R" and : "891L". Their diameter is about : .850" Car is a 72Duster 198. : Question: What to do to improve handling ? I : have a front sway bar. The car is all torn : apart for resto right now, so anything is : possible. Has anyone a picture of installed : subframe connectors ? If you have a stock sway bar, you might want to upgrade to an aftermarket 1.125" unit w/poly bushings. Also, I would go with 0.890" or 0.920" diameter T-bars. The biggest help in handling is wider, low profile tires. Try to get at least some 215/60-14s under it. Lou |
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| Author: | Christian [ Fri May 17, 2002 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
It will take some time to get the car back on the road. I´ll have a look some good rubber ! Thanx Christian charged@cityweb.de |
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| Author: | 69dart [ Sat May 18, 2002 7:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars / sway bars |
I would consider putting a rear sway bar on at this time if you can work it. also add a leaf to your leaf springs. These two item should only run 300$ at most and would really go nice with the front end work. Good luck (User Above) wrote: :
: If you have a stock sway bar, you might want to : upgrade to an aftermarket 1.125" unit : w/poly bushings. Also, I would go with : 0.890" or 0.920" diameter T-bars. : The biggest help in handling is wider, low : profile tires. Try to get at least some : 215/60-14s under it. : : Lou |
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra) [ Sat May 18, 2002 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars & a rear sway bar |
(User Above) wrote: : Those T-bars should be stiff enough for your : car since that's what they used on big block : Darts. I wouldn't go much stiffer on a : street car - maybe 0.920 or 0.990" if : you're really hardcore. I have 1.125" : sway bars on the front of both my ('64 and : '68) Darts. : : I wouldn't bother with a rear sway bar. I've : tried them on my Dart and they don't : appreciably help handling. The road racers : I've talked to/heard of concur with this : opinion (Mike Ritz - Team Starfish, and : Richard Ehrenberg - Green Brick). : Enjoy the Gs, Hi Lou, Do you run a rear bar on either of you cars? The rear bar is a driver preferance decision, I agree with the issues that the serious road race cars do better without a rear bar just because it is safer (and faster around the track) if the car understeers (pushes) instead of getting oversteer. (can you say spin-out?) On the street, I like a bunch of rear sway bar. ( I have 2 rear bars under the back of my 66 wagon) My set-up is pretty well balanced with a little low speed push, 4 wheel drift 30 to 60 mph, and oversteer at speeds above 60 ( the car is waayyy to "tail happy" above 90 but I don't drive it through curves that fast) Rear bars are fun, it really gives the car a flat feel so you may want to try one. DD |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Mon May 20, 2002 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: torsion bars & a rear sway bar |
(User Above) wrote: : Hi Lou, : Do you run a rear bar on either of you cars? : The rear bar is a driver preferance decision, I : agree with the issues that the serious road : race cars do better without a rear bar just : because it is safer (and faster around the : track) if the car understeers (pushes) : instead of getting oversteer. (can you say : spin-out?) : : On the street, I like a bunch of rear sway bar. : ( I have 2 rear bars under the back of my 66 : wagon) : My set-up is pretty well balanced with a little : low speed push, 4 wheel drift 30 to 60 mph, : and oversteer at speeds above 60 ( the car : is waayyy to "tail happy" above 90 : but I don't drive it through curves that : fast) : : Rear bars are fun, it really gives the car a : flat feel so you may want to try one. : DD Hey Doug, I don't run a rear bar on either car, but have had one (3/4" diam??) on my '68 on and off. The '68 handles with a bit more oversteer with the rear bar, but as you said, not really faster. I like the feel slightly better with no rear bar as the car sets up the suspension and "crouches" in the corners a bit better, in my opinion. The '64 has had some oversteer lately(older rear tires I think), so I'll have to see how it handles my new wheel/tire combo I just got on there this weekend (245/45ZR16s on 16X8 rims). I like the slight understeer that I can turn into oversteer with the throttle. I've done some 4whl drifts at 80-90 on the throttle - now THAT's entertainment. Cheers, Lou |
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