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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:53 am 
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I went back through the entire history of Slant 6 Racing News archives again to determine everyone's "Performance Index".

Seymour had posted these results for the 2006 season and that sparked my interest to see who really is the "Best" Slant 6 racer... :wink:

The calculation is simply the total number of round wins compared to the total number of rounds competed in since 1999.

If you won 2 rounds of a 4 round race, your Performance Index would be 0.5000.

I took into consideration those events that had the "minumum point guarantee" and adjusted them to only the rounds actually raced.

I also made adjustments where necessary for a couple races early on that were not completed, etc.

This "Leader Board" will look a little different from the "Career Points" thread... :wink:

So, who really IS the "Best of the Best" in Slant 6 Racing?... :?

Here's Who! :D

Top 60

Last NameFirst NamePIWinsRounds
BowmanNick1.000055
BuchanGeorge1.000022
KingMatt1.000022
FunkFrank0.84621113
JonesScott0.750068
WillisGary0.7273811
BoydClint0.714357
BurzaJim0.666723
MagnanteSteve0.666723
MartinRon0.666723
WhitleyLarry0.666723
TerryGlen0.644267104
StevensGordie0.62903962
SmithRay0.625058
DrollJeff0.5714814
SteelmanOscar0.50001020
AlumbaughDarin0.5000612
AshleyRandy0.5000612
DuPuisLydia0.500024
GravattDan0.500024
HeflinThomas0.500024
JensonBrandon0.500024
SwansonNathan0.500024
WestJay0.500024
SteppBob0.500012
HambyRon0.4712147312
HargisRodney0.4569143313
EricksonAric0.456152114
JeffreyMike0.451160133
ElhardJerry0.444449
AndersonKen0.4375716
AitonStan0.428637
BaileyAndrew0.428637
PlylerHannah0.428637
RadleyBrian0.428637
ParkerRon0.4280104243
DrakeTom0.42002150
BayerBrian0.4167512
HendersonJason0.400025
JudgeCarson0.400025
FosterNorman0.387172186
CovaltRyan0.37781745
TerryJohn0.37781745
ShifflettBecky0.3684719
StoakesCJ0.365749134
GoodmanMark0.34481029
RoseDale (D)0.334970209
MurrayMark0.33331545
PowersDoug0.33331545
EvansMike0.33331133
NunezArt0.333339
MuellerFred0.333326
BookerEmily0.333313
FrenchTJ0.333313
HinesNeal0.333313
SchumersAnnette0.333313
SpivaA0.333313
BjerklundRichard0.326145138
PineWendy0.32532783


Let the "Banter begin... :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:22 am 
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Last NameFirst NamePIWinsRounds
EvanoffRobert0.3200825
MorganWayne0.3103929
GlassMichael0.3077826
JonesRandy0.3077413
LaneyBrent0.29411034
HarrisJoel0.2903931
HoltCharlie0.2857414
SimmonsRob0.2857414
GonzalesSergio0.278829104
PineBruce0.2727311
CoxJohn0.26832282
HowardAndrew0.267139146
BrunerLukus0.26672490
JudgeRandy (D)0.2667830
SchmidCharlie0.262731118
EricksonWayne0.25711870
EvrardChris0.2500416
RuddDavid0.2500416
CharapichSara0.250028
DowningAaron0.250028
KalisKen0.250028
RhoadesFrank0.250028
BlankenshipChristine0.250014
BrownJack0.250014
BuierlDenny0.250014
ButlerKip0.250014
ChronakJon0.250014
DavisTom0.250014
DawsonPat0.250014
EuryNick0.250014
GasparJamie0.250014
PhillipsJason0.250014
PopeArnold0.250014
PyrakMatt0.250014
RogersBob0.250014
ThomsonEd0.250014
WalkerTony0.250014
BrunerGary0.248643173
DutraAllen0.246434138
JesiolowskiPJ0.244131127
BrunerMeril0.243758238
HowardJessica0.2432937
EverhardtJack0.2400625
DutraDoug0.238737155
Di BonaStephanie0.2308313
DerrickOscar (D)0.2286835
StonebackPhil0.2250940
FurioRomeo0.22221045
DroschakBrian0.2222836
SchmeltzMarty0.2222418
ParsonJeff0.222229
MadsenLou0.220747213
ChesneyLarry0.219232146
OndaykoGreg0.20931886
JonesRonnie0.2093943
MyersCharles0.208724115
ArmstrongRob0.2083524
CovaltRick0.2069629
HarrisonBarry0.203523113
DrakeJudy0.200094

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Nice work. But since you have so much time on your hands, show us the list with only those who have run a minimum number of rounds run. Say 25 or 50.

Rick

PS. I'm still pretty impressed with Frank Funks 11 out of 13, for a rookie no less!!

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Thanks, Rob. Now we have more numbers/benchmarks to bench race with.

I am impressed mine is as high as it is. I had a 0.000 rating for the first 3-4 years I raced (5 races/yr).

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Rick Covalt wrote:
...show us the list with only those who have run a minimum number of rounds run. Say 25 or 50.

Rick


I'll post up whatever y'all want me to. :wink:

This here's just a way fer me to satisfy my OCD in a productive (matter of OPINION :lol: ) way...

I'll be changin' jobs round about 1 June and won't have this kinda time on my hands no more...

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Dart270 wrote:
I am impressed mine is as high as it is. I had a 0.000 rating for the first 3-4 years I raced (5 races/yr).

Lou


Yeah, but you just keep getting better and better... AND faster and faster! :D

I've got every year and every race broken down if you want me to send you your "stats". :wink:

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 Post subject: 25 plus rounds
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Not taking anything away from those with less than 25 rounds. But look at the list again with those who have 25 plus rounds and you see the cream rise to the top.

Only 2 have over a .500 win percentage and they no longer race with us. Next on the list Ron Hamby and Rodney Hargis. That is pretty good company. The rest of the top 10 looks like a whose who of Slant 6 racing.That also should give some hope to the new racers. Even the best we have in our group is still under .500! So come on out and give it a try.

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 Post subject: 25 rounds or more...
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Okey Dokey,

Here's the same list sorted by the highest Performance Index filtered to only those racers competing in 25 or more rounds:

Last NameFirst NamePIWinsRounds
TerryGlen0.644267104
StevensGordie0.62903962
HambyRon0.4712147312
HargisRodney0.4569143313
EricksonAric0.456152114
JeffreyMike0.451160133
ParkerRon0.4280104243
DrakeTom0.42002150
FosterNorman0.387172186
CovaltRyan0.37781745
TerryJohn0.37781745
StoakesCJ0.365749134
GoodmanMark0.34481029
RoseDale (D)0.334970209
MurrayMark0.33331545
PowersDoug0.33331545
EvansMike0.33331133
BjerklundRichard0.326145138
PineWendy0.32532783
EvanoffRobert0.3200825
MorganWayne0.3103929
GlassMichael0.3077826
LaneyBrent0.29411034
HarrisJoel0.2903931
GonzalesSergio0.278829104
CoxJohn0.26832282
HowardAndrew0.267139146
BrunerLukus0.26672490
JudgeRandy (D)0.2667830
SchmidCharlie0.262731118
EricksonWayne0.25711870
BrunerGary0.248643173
DutraAllen0.246434138
JesiolowskiPJ0.244131127
BrunerMeril0.243758238
HowardJessica0.2432937
EverhardtJack0.2400625
DutraDoug0.238737155
DerrickOscar (D)0.2286835
StonebackPhil0.2250940
FurioRomeo0.22221045
DroschakBrian0.2222836
MadsenLou0.220747213
ChesneyLarry0.219232146
OndaykoGreg0.20931886
JonesRonnie0.2093943
MyersCharles0.208724115
CovaltRick0.2069629
HarrisonBarry0.203523113
DrakeJudy0.2000945
ReeseMike0.198020101
MoranPaul0.1957946
MimkenBrian0.194220103
DavisJason0.1875948
DrakeLeighton0.18181688
SchumersDennis0.18181266
EndresDavid0.1795739
WrightFrank0.17911267
HaasRichard0.1765634
CovaltMicah0.1724529
CovaltDenny0.1724529
MuellerDave0.1607956
DaughertyDerrick0.15941169
EtheridgeMark0.15941169
CoxJim0.15461597
BjerklundMike0.14711068
CharapichMark0.1389536
FoleyTristan0.1373751
BurnsWill0.12791186
PraterDana0.1176651
AmisRhonda0.1154326
PedersonSeymour0.114332280
WilliamsMike0.1081437
ValentRick0.1071656
ParlierJack0.0833336
SkinnerJoshua0.0800225
MayberryJohn0.0732341
MartinMelinda0.0690229
NelsonJoe0.0400125
EricksonDavid0.0395376
KerrRandy0.0385126
JohnsonLester0.0357128
NicholsKent0.0345129
CoxFaith0.0000028


I'm hoping to get into the "25 Rounds" Club this year. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:02 pm 
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Here are the Top 60 in the Performance Index.

I'll pair it down to only those with 25+ rounds next. :wink:

..................................P.I........Wins.....Rounds
Bowman..Nick..........1.0000........5..........5
Buchan..George........1.0000........2..........2
King..Matt................1.0000........2..........2
Funk..Frank.(D)........0.8462.......11........13
Jones..Scott.............0.8182........9.........11
Willis..Gary..............0.7273........8.........11
Boyd..Clint...............0.7143........5..........7
Terry..Glen..............0.6667.......82.......123
Burza..Jim...............0.6667........2..........3
Magnante..Steve......0.6667........2..........3
Martin..Ron.............0.6667........2..........3
Whitley..Larry.........0.6667.........2..........3
Stevens..Gordie.......0.6290.......39........62
Smith..Ray.............0.6250.........5..........8
Droll..Jeff...............0.5714.........8.........14
Steelman..Oscar.....0.5000........10.........20
Alumbaugh..Darin...0.5000.........6..........12
Ashley..Randy.........0.5000........6..........12
DuPuis..Lydia..........0.5000........2...........4
Heflin..Thomas........0.5000........2...........4
Jenson..Brandon......0.5000........2...........4
Swanson..Nathan.....0.5000........2...........4
West..Jay................0.5000........2...........4
Stepp..Bob..............0.5000........1...........2
Hamby..Ron............0.4789.......170......355
Hargis..Rodney........0.4752.......163......343
Erickson..Aric..........0.4561.........52......114
Jeffrey..Mike...........0.4511.........60......133
Elhard..Jerry...........0.4444..........4..........9
Aiton..Stan.............0.4286..........3..........7
Bailey..Andrew........0.4286..........3..........7
Plyler..Hannah.........0.4286..........3..........7
Radley..Brian...........0.4286.........3..........7
Parker..Ron.............0.4280......104.......243
Drake..Tom.............0.4200........21........50
Bayer..Brian............0.4167..........5........12
Booker..Emily..........0.4000..........2.........5
Goodman..Austin.....0.4000..........2.........5
Henderson..Jason.....0.4000.........2.........5
Judge..Carson..........0.4000.........2.........5
Terry..John..............0.3778........17.......45
Foster..Norman........0.3711........72......194
Stoakes..C.J............0.3699........64......173
Shifflett..Becky........0.3684.........7.........19
Simmons..Rob.........0.3636.........8.........22
Rose..Dale.(D).........0.3349.......70........209
Howard..Andrew......0.3333........65.......195
Evans..Mike............0.3333........11.........33
Goodman..Mark......0.3333.........10.........30
Pine..Bruce............0.3333...........9.........27
Nunez..Art.............0.3333...........3..........9
Mueller..Fred..........0.3333...........2..........6
French..T.J.............0.3333...........1..........3
Hines..Neal............0.3333............1..........3
Schumers..Annette..0.3333...........1..........3
Spiva..A.................0.3333...........1..........3
Covalt..Ryan...........0.3279.........20.........61
Evanoff..Robert.......0.3200...........8.........25
Morgan..Wayne.......0.3103...........9.........29

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Okay, Here are the top racers limited to only those that have competed in 25 or more rounds of Slant 6 racing.

Here's a little info on the Top 10:

1. Glen Terry bumped his Performance Index by winning back to back races last year. Glen was our National Champion three years in a row (2007-2009).

2. Gordie Stevens hasn't raced with us since 2007. He was our National Champion in 2001.

3. Ron Hamby won his fourth National Championship last year with a strong season end push. Ron's winning seasons are '99, '02, '03 and '13.

4. Rodney Hargis is a two time National Champion, winning in '98 and '05. He gave Ron a run for his money at the end of last year trying for his third Championship.

5. Aric Erickson raced with us in '05-'12 with his best years in '08 and '12 where he earned over 100 points each year. He missed 2013, but will hopefully continue racing with us.

6. Mike Jeffrey was one of the Pioneers of the Slant 6 Racing series pushing for lower ET's and playing with nitrous in the early years with his "Buzzin' Half Dozen" 68 Valiant. I believe he may have been the first Slant 6 in the 10's. He hasn't made it to his typical Mid West Slant 6 race in the last two years. He typically competes in the Stock Eliminator class racing where he represents the Slant 6 in a Mirada. His Valiant is still in the garage under a cover in case he ever gets tired of Stock racing and wants to start pushing the envelope for those super low, nitrous fed ET's again. :wink:

7. Ron Parker is another SSRN Pioneer and our 2000 National Champion driving his "Slanted Attitude" '69 Dart. Unfortunately, Ron has been unable to race with us since 2009 due to health concerns. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as he awaits a liver transplant.

8. Tom Drake only raced with us from '03 to '06, but was a major sponsor and race coordinator. He and his Dad Leighton teamed up and showed us what turbo power could do for a Slant 6, running a best of 9.85 in the 1/4 mile and still holding the A Unlimited 1/8 mile record with a 6.10 @109 MPH set at Farmington, NC in 2004. Tom still lurks here and occasionally posts links to cool cars that he finds on Craigslist, Racing Junk, etc. I've pestered him to get back into Slant 6 racing, but it hasn't worked... yet.

9. John Terry only raced with us in '07, '09 and '10, but he had a good win record in Slant 6 racing. Anyone want to share any more information on John?

10. Norman Foster has raced with us since '02 and is our '06 National Champion. He has cut back his racing since retiring, but still tries to show up for 1 or 2 races a year. He and Elaine now have a nice little Toad to drive to the races.

...............................Index....Wins...Rounds
Terry..Glen................0.6667...82....123
Stevens..Gordie.........0.6290...39......62
Hamby..Ron..............0.4789...170...355
Hargis..Rodney..........0.4752...163...343
Erickson..Aric............0.4561...52....114
Jeffrey..Mike..............0.4511..60....133
Parker..Ron...............0.4280..104...243
Drake..Tom...............0.4200...21.....50
Terry..John................0.3778...17....45
Foster..Norman..........0.3711...72...194
Stoakes..C.J..............0.3699...64...173
Rose..Dale.(D)...........0.3349...70...209
Howard..Andrew........0.3333...65...195
Evans..Mike...............0.3333...11....33
Goodman..Mark.........0.3333...10....30
Pine..Bruce...............0.3333....9.....27
Covalt..Ryan.............0.3279...20....61
Evanoff..Robert.........0.3200....8.....25
Morgan..Wayne.........0.3103....9.....29
Pine..Wendy.............0.3089...38....123
Glass..Michael...........0.3077....8.....26
Bjerklund..Richard.....0.3019...48....159
Powers..Doug............0.2963...16.....54
Laney..Brent.............0.2941...10.....34
Harris..Joel...............0.2903....9.....31
Stoneback..Phil.........0.2708...13....48
Murray..Mark............0.2706...23....85
Bruner..Meril.............0.2689...71...264
Cox..John.................0.2683...22....82
Bruner..Lukus...........0.2667...32...120
Judge..Randy (D)......0.2667....8.....30
Gonzales..Sergio.......0.2640...33...125
Jesiolowski..PJ..........0.2632...35...133
Erickson..Wayne.......0.2571...18....70
Schmid..Charlie........0.2460...31...126
Covalt..Denny..........0.2444...11....45
Dutra..Doug.............0.2434...46...189
Bruner..Gary............0.2362...47...199
Mimken..Brian..........0.2345...34...145
Ondayko..Greg.........0.2340...22....94
Mueller..Dave...........0.2308...15....65
Madsen..Lou............0.2298...57...248
Derrick..Oscar.(D)....0.2286....8.....35
Dutra..Allen.............0.2267...39...172
Howard..Jessica........0.2195....9....41
Chesney..Larry.........0.2192...32...146
Bjerklund..Mike........0.2135...19....89
Everhardt..Jack........0.2121....7.....33
Furio..Romeo...........0.2105...12....57
Jones..Ronnie..........0.2093....9.....43
Myers..Charles.........0.2087...24...115
Harrison..Barry........0.2035...23...113
Drake..Judy.............0.2000....9.....45
Reese..Mike.............0.1980...20...101
Moran..Paul.............0.1957....9.....46
Davis..Jason............0.1875....9.....48
Droschak..Brian.......0.1875....9.....48
Endres..David..........0.1860....8.....43
Drake..Leighton.......0.1818...16....88
Schumers..Dennis....0.1818...12....66
Covalt..Micah...........0.1778....8....45
Haas..Richard..........0.1765....6....34
Charapich..Mark.......0.1702....8....47
Covalt..Rick.............0.1698....9....53
Etheridge..Mark........0.1667...12...72
Daugherty..Derrick....0.1594...11...69
Wright..Frank............0.1563...15...96
Cox..Jim..................0.1546...15....97
Covalt..Whitney........0.1515....5....33
Foley..Tristan...........0.1373....7....51
Burns..Will...............0.1170...11...94
Amis..Rhonda...........0.1154....3....26
Pederson..Seymour....0.1131...32..283
Prater..Dana..............0.1111....6....54
Prater..Curtis.............0.1111....3....27
Williams..Mike...........0.1081....4....37
Valent..Rick..............0.1071....6....56
Parlier..Jack..............0.0833....3....36
Skinner..Joshua.........0.0800....2....25
Mayberry..John..........0.0732....3....41
Martin..Melinda..........0.0690....2....29
Nelson..Joe...............0.0400....1....25
Erickson..David.........0.0395....3....76
Kerr..Randy..............0.0385....1....26
Johnson..Lester.........0.0357....1....28
Nichols..Kent............0.0345....1....29
Cox..Faith................0.0000....0....28
Heath..Aaron............0.0000....0....25

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Wow! I feel I'm running with the big names now! I'm right behind Myers, and just ahead of Rick...in the 61-120 index...statistically speaking!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:05 am 
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Here are the Best of the Best in Slant 6 Drag Racing. These are the people who have won at least 15 rounds.

Terry..Glen................0.6667....82.....123
Stevens..Gordie.........0.6290....39......62
Hamby..Ron...............0.4880...183....375
Hargis..Rodney..........0.4718....176....373
Erickson..Aric.............0.4561.....52....114
Jeffrey..Mike..............0.4511.....60....133
Parker..Ron...............0.4280....104....243
Drake..Tom...............0.4200.....21.....50
Terry..John................0.3778.....17.....45
Stoakes..C.J..............0.3743.....67....179
Foster..Norman..........0.3711.....72....194
Rose..Dale (D)...........0.3349.....70....209
Howard..Andrew.........0.3268.....67....205
Pine..Wendy..............0.3214.....45....140
Bruner..Lukus............0.3071.....43....140
Murray..Mark.............0.2990.....29.....97
Bjerklund..Richard......0.2882.....49....170
Cox..John..................0.2683.....22.....82
Powers..Doug............0.2667.....16.....60
Gonzales..Sergio........0.2640.....33....125
Jesiolowski..PJ...........0.2632.....35.....133
Schmid..Charlie..........0.2632....35.....133
Covalt..Ryan..............0.2593.....21......81
Bruner..Meril..............0.2581.....72.....279
Erickson..Wayne........0.2571.....18......70
Mueller..Dave............0.2535.....18......71
Madsen..Lou..............0.2386.....63....264
Dutra..Allen...............0.2353.....44....187
Mimken..Brian...........0.2331.....38....163
Bruner..Gary.............0.2304.....50....217
Dutra..Doug..............0.2304.....47....204
Ondayko..Greg..........0.2222.....26....117
Bjerklund..Mike..........0.2174.....20.....92
Chesney..Larry..........0.2148.....32....149
Covalt..Rick...............0.2105.....16.....76
Myers..Charles...........0.2087.....24....115
Harrison..Barry..........0.2035.....23....113
Reese..Mike...............0.1980.....20....101
Wright..Frank.............0.1863.....19....102
Drake..Leighton..........0.1818.....16.....88
Cox..Jim....................0.1546.....15.....97
Pederson..Seymour....0.1186.....35....295

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:12 am 
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This is the next group of people who have won 10-15 rounds of Slant 6 Drag Racing since 1999.

Funk..Frank.(D)..........0.8462...11...13
Jones..Scott...............0.8462...11...13
Heisten..Rusty............0.6500...13...20
Steelman..Oscar........0.5000....10...20
Evans..Mike...............0.3333....11...33
Goodman..Mark.........0.3333....10...30
Laney..Brent..............0.2941...10...34
Howard..Jessica.........0.2500....11...44
Stoneback..Phil..........0.2321....13...56
Covalt..Denny............0.2264...12...53
Furio..Romeo.............0.2203....13...59
Droschak..Brian.........0.1875....12...64
Schumers..Dennis......0.1818....12...66
Etheridge..Mark.........0.1667....12...72
Daugherty..Derrick....0.1594....11...69
Burns..Will................0.1122....11...98

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:33 am 
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And just to make sure we don't miss any "One Hit Wonders" or those Up & Coming racers that don't yet have 10 wins under their belts...

Here are all of the Best Performance Index racers down to 0.5000. We DO have 4 "Perfect" racers. :wink:

Bowman..Nick............1.0000...5...5
Ledden..Justin............1.0000...4...4
Buchan..George.........1.0000...2...2
King..Matt..................1.0000...2...2
Sword..Derrick...........0.8750...7...8
Funk..Frank (D)..........0.8462...11...13
Jones..Scott...............0.8462...11...13
Willis..Gary................0.7273...8...11
Boyd..Clint................0.7143...5...7
Terry..Glen................0.6667...82...123
Burza..Jim.................0.6667...2...3
Magnante..Steve........0.6667...2...3
Martin..Ron................0.6667...2...3
Whitley..Larry............0.6667...2...3
Heisten..Rusty...........0.6500...13...20
Ambacher..Glen.........0.6364...7...11
Stevens..Gordie.........0.6290...39...62
Smith..Ray................0.6250...5...8
Droll..Jeff..................0.5714...8...14
Steelman..Oscar........0.5000...10...20
Alumbaugh..Darin......0.5000...6...12
Ashley..Randy...........0.5000...6...12
DuPuis..Lydia............0.5000...2...4
Heflin..Thomas..........0.5000...2...4
Jenson..Brandon.......0.5000...2...4
Swanson..Nathan......0.5000...2...4
West..Jay.................0.5000...2...4
Stepp..Bob................0.5000...1...2

Three time National Champion Glen Terry looks to be the "Best" Slant 6 Racer with the best PI and 82 wins.

Gordie Stevens hasn't raced with us since 2007. He was our 2001 National Champion.

Team Green Hired Gun and #3 for 2014, Rusty Heisten looks to be one of those "Up & Coming" racers. :wink:

If only there were more races closer to the Mid West... :(

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