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Post subject: (Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:35 pm) Reply with quote

Rob Simmons wrote:
That's pretty impressive to go 16s with a completely stock motor.

That would be cool if y'all do get it in the 16s. I trash talk quite a bit, but I'm rootin' fer ya! Wink


I still have that motor laying in the shop too. It's out of an '80 Volare. Laughing

You got to remember, that was at over 3200#. In a lighter car it would have been somewhat faster. Shocked

Maybe I should just keep the Duster and put it in there. Wink



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Post subject: (Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:48 am) Reply with quote

slantzilla wrote:
Maybe I should just keep the Duster and put it in there. Wink


Now there's an idea! Laughing



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Post subject: (Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:25 pm) Reply with quote

slantzilla wrote:


Wookie's gotta weigh a couple hundred pounds less than me too.


248 lbs. Dang need ta do some push aways. Mater is prolly 98 pounds soakin' wet. But we know he is all wet anyway.



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Post subject: (Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:09 pm) Reply with quote

I ain't THAT skinny! Rolling Eyes

You'll be all wet with yer tears from cryin' when I whoop up on you at a drag race!... Oh wait! That's prolly never gonna happen, huh? Razz

Now get out there and work on the Demon! Twisted Evil



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Post subject: (Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:09 pm) Reply with quote

Aint that a shame Cookie is crying like the rain Very Happy thanks Possum














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Post subject: (Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:49 am) Reply with quote

I, Possum sir, am right as rain. Mater is the big dang crybaby! Always tries ta git his way. Always complainin'. Reminds me of a ...........woman.



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Post subject: (Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:52 am) Reply with quote

I thought calling him Mater was bad...now he's calling him a girl! Razz



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Post subject: (Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:31 am) Reply with quote

"Sticks and Stones" gentlemen,... "Sticks and Stones"... Rolling Eyes Laughing

I think it's pretty obvious to all (even Bagel! Laughing ) following along in this saga between Cookie and me that he is nothing more than hot air and evil intentions.

Whenever he is in a quandry over what to say he resorts to name calling and twisting my words around. Very sad actually... Sad

C'mon Cookie... Ya gotta do bedder 'n dis! Shocked

(Don't let your enthusiasm "wayne" just because I'm already whoopin' up on ya! Pick yerself up by the boot straps and be a big boy about it. Razz )

Laughing Laughing Laughing



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Post subject: (Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:19 pm) Reply with quote

I replaced the melted shifter cable last night. Very Happy

While I was down there fiddlin' I noticed that I could re-route the front tranny fluid line to get it away from the header and shifter cable. When I was re-tightening the line I broke the fitting off in the transmission! Shocked Mad

Luckily, my "easy-outs" were close at hand and I was back in bizness.

Does anyone have pictures of how they routed their shifter cable to avoid melting the cable?

Dennis described his method and I thought I had it far enough away from the header, but I was abviously wrong. Embarassed Perhaps the metal I was using to divert it from the header actually transferred heat to the cable... Confused

I've wrapped the new cable with header wrap stolen from the Challenger shifter cable, but I still need to route the cable as far from the header as possible.



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Post subject: More progress... (Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:49 am) Reply with quote

A fun evening at the garage tonight.

I re-routed the shifter cable over to the passenger side of the transmission and looped it under the bell housing. Thanks Romeo Furio for the advice and pictures. Wink

Here is the melted cable and the broken fitting from the last time I fiddled with it.



Here's how I made my heat shield / "cable diverter" to go under the transmission.



Then I just flipped it upside down and bent it so that it hangs a bit below the transmission and points to the rear. This gives the cable a place to rest and keeps it away from the header.



Like this! Very Happy



If left to its own devices, the shifter cable would dangle underneath the oil pan in front of the shield I made.



But it easily pushes behind the shield and points away from the header.



And on the passenger side.



Then it loops up around the dipstick tube.



And through the trans tunnel on the passenger side.



To come up to the shifter like this.



Here you can see the hole up higher and toward the middle of the fire wall where the melted cable went through and where this one goes through the trans tunnel lower down and to the passenger side.



I still put some aluminum foil around it for more protection. Next time I'm over there I will put some header wrap around the header where it comes closest to the cable.



I had quite a bit of foil, so I just used what I had. Laughing



I did discover that I need to replace the idler arm. It seemed fine when I checked it several months ago, but I guess a couple passes down the 1/8th mile and the backwards tow to and from the track loosened it up to reveal how bad it actually is. I just sold one at the banquet too. Rolling Eyes Laughing

While I was laying under there I saw some more easy weight removal in the form of more 30+ year old grunge that I can scrape off. Laughing



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Post subject: (Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:04 pm) Reply with quote

slantzilla wrote:
I've been low 16's in the car myself with a stock longblock just like the one we have in the car now. Granted I had a better converter, but Wookie will have more gear to make up for it.

Wookie's gotta weigh a couple hundred pounds less than me too.


This same engine in GodsRods Duster I had a fastest time of high 14's.

That car was heavier by a couple hundred pounds (estimated), had a 3.91 open 8 1/4 out of a Dakota on street tires and a 2800 RPM converter.

GodsRods Duster II is lighter, has a Ford 8" with 4.62s and a mini spool and a 4500 RPM converter on ET Streets.

Both cars have leaf springs. GodsRods Duster I had a pinion snubber set at 1" from the floorboard and added leafs for a very stiff ride.

I'm pretty sure I can get this combo into the mid 13's. Shocked

Next steps to get there:

1. More "Seat Time". Very Happy

2. More weight reduction.

3. Swap steel wheels and ET Streets for Centerlines and slicks.

4. Seal hood scoop to the carb.

5. More aerodynamic type stuff (close off grille, chin spoiler...)

6. Any other suggestions? (Shut up Cookie! Razz Laughing )



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Post subject: (Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:01 pm) Reply with quote

More HP.



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Post subject: (Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:50 pm) Reply with quote

Sounds like you have too much converter and too much gear for that motor - will likely slow you down. If GR I actually ran high 14s, then you should already be in the 13s. Have you tested the actual conv stall?

Lou



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Post subject: (Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:59 pm) Reply with quote

X2 on what Lou said about the gear. A lighter car shouldn't need as much gear as a heavier car. I bet if you had the 3.91 or 4.10 gear in it that would be plenty.



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Post subject: (Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:06 am) Reply with quote

CNC-Dude wrote:
More HP.


This engine pretty much is what it is. It's the "entry level" engine to teach teenagers how to drag race. Wink

Dart270 wrote:
Sounds like you have too much converter and too much gear for that motor - will likely slow you down. If GR I actually ran high 14s, then you should already be in the 13s. Have you tested the actual conv stall?

Lou


It is a lot of converter and gear. Remember, the new engine Gary built for me was originally planned to be in here.

I went back and looked at the GodsRods Duster I thread. It was a tire spinning 15.85 that we ran at SGMP back in 2006. Embarassed Frank told me he got it down into the 14's...

At any rate, I'm pretty excited that it is running this fast. Very Happy

I only made the two passes, so I haven't settled down into it enough to really know what's going on with it yet. The 4.62's do seem to be better suited for the 1/8th mile. Shocked

I haven't tested the actual stall yet. I will do that the next time I take it out. It is a Dynamic converter. I called them and gave them all the specs for the car.

It's easy enough to swap the 8 3/4 with the 3.91 Sure Grip from the Street Duster in here I suppose... I would rather gear for the 1/4 and let it run what it runs in the 1/8.



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