Anyone who has a topic or suggestion that they would like to have discussed at the banquet can post it here and I will send Seymour a list in a few weeks.


He is in the process of putting together a short list of races for next year. It looks like there are going to be a lot of races around the end of May through June so there may need to be some decisions made this year about which ones we want to attend. There should be some write-up on it in the last newsletter.


Tom Drake

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Throw away all the rules that served absolutely no purpose but to tilt a championship toward a particular racer.

Do away with all the classes for records, raise the minimum weight to something that actual Slant cars can reach, say 2500#, and just have records for Race and Street. Right now we have way more record classes than we have cars to fill them.

Separate the street cars from the race cars during eliminations until there are 2 left of each. Realistically, it will have small bearing on a championship anyway, because the same bunch of guys will still be beating on each other at every race anyway.

Weather and work permitting, I will be there with Mike this year.

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Please elaborate? Which rules?

I think that we should at least do away with the unlimited class. Right now our car is the only one that fits in the class. NOS, superchargers and turbos should all be lumped together. Most all of the other classes has cars that fit in them. As far as minimum weight...2000# is legit for a tube chassis race car(could be even lighter with a little effort). If someone wants to build a light slant six we need to encourage it. Making them weigh 2500# seems a little harsh to me.


I suggested this last year and it did not get a warm reception. I think the random ladder that was used this year is a very good alternative. We had more different winners this year than any year before.

What do some of the rest of you think?? Is Dennis the only one with ideas?

Tom

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I thought the random pairing scheme was a winner since it did mix things up, as intended. With this in place, I'm not sure a street and race class division is necessary. Maybe you could run 2 rounds street/race split up?

The number of classes does seem high, so maybe making two weights instead of three (2000 and 2600??) would work.

I totally agree on the NOS/Unlimited class. Combine them into a "Power Adders" class and be done with it. There is no encouragement for boosted vehicles at this point.

Lou

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What do you think about offering bonus points for setting records? Make a 1 time a year bonus and give like 5 points? Might encourage people to go after some of the class records.

How about 4 major races a year for the overall championship.(Bristol, Columbus, Clay City and Hamilton) These would be the only points that would count towards the overall championship.
Then have the divisional races count towards a divisional championship.

If only 4 races counted then people would not be able to drop a 1st rd loss at say Bristol and replace it with a 40 point win later on. This might make it easier for racrers that have to tow a long way to plan and make these 4 races.

Just throwing out ideas.

Tom

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Tom let me throw this out for coment. I like your idea about the four races for the championship at the tracks you picked. How about having 1 bonus point race that the driver chooses at any other Slant races we attend during the year and doin't throw any points out. You have to count the points at the four tracks doint matter if you get just 1 point.






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Ron,
That is not bad. So a total of five races counting. The 5th race would be your best finish other than the mandatory four or would you have to designate your fifth race before it was run?

Seymour had the idea of four races and you had to decide before the race if you were going to count the points you earned at that event. If you decided to count that race and went out in the first rd then you get only 1 pt, no deciding after the race was run. Once you counted four races that was it for your points total but you could go to the other races and try to win so your closest competitor did not gain any points on you.


Tom

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I'm a new guy to slant six racing. I've only been to the track one time and entered 1 points race. (Pittsburgh) That puts me in contention for rookie of the year next season if I understand correctly.

I don't have strong feelings about rules I've yet to learn, but I like to see that the group is open to keeping the rules in line with the current interest.

I raced against Dale Rose in my very first elimination, and I have mixed feelings about random pairing. I'm a little resistant to limiting points collection to 4 races nationwide, but I can better understand the "call your race" points collection system. I worry how we can reliably keep records of who called which race, but I guess it's not rocket science. Something like, you must request a points card the day of the race.

Can we deceide AFTER we see the field of cars and get an idea of who is and isn't actually racing for points that day.

Still seems like a system that opens the door to 2 champions. Undisputed would have to win overall anyways.

I've got lots of "Ideas", but I'm new and learning, so I don't expect them to effect me greatly.

In a field of only 12 cars, splitting the field to race/street seems too soon, but it's something to consider if bigger groups start showing up. Might want to talk about a limit. Since 16 cars are required to build a true 4 round race, you'd have to have 16 race or street cars in one place to even claim a need for such a split. Then again, offering 2 classes would create more points and encourage people to pick a class. The street class would be "better" match ups and easier for new people to get their feet wet.

I doubt Dale Rose wants to sit waiting for a light for 7 seconds again next year and I know he doesn't want to get knocked out of points contention like that. It could happen , (if I had only made that woman get out of my car during that elimination race I'd of hit my 18.90 dial in for sure!) Like I said, I'm still learning the current rules.

Hoping to be in the 17 second range by next season (17.99 is O.K) Thanks to everyone for making this a really enjoyable sport and even better people.

Paul

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Tom no you doint have to announce whitch race it before hand. That way it keeps the other races compitive. I liked the Farmingiton race and if i won it next that would be my bonus and so on Who ever won at MOKan could count that race same for St Louis. This way it could be compitive all season Thanks
Ron






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OK.
I think that it would work better if they had to decide before the race. All that would be required is whoever is taking care of the ladder would just make a note of who is counting points for that race and send it along with the results to Seymour.(if he is not at that race)
That would create a little strategy, do you count a bigger race and take a chance on winning or maybe count a smaller that might be easier to win. Wait until one of the later races to see how the others are doing?? If the top three all count a winning race then they pretty much cancel each other out.

Could make things really interesting.

Tom

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I like the bonus points for setting records idea.

Calling races before they start for points is also good. I think just having 4 particular (big) races count would really kill car count on the other races.

Lou

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Lou that was my idea . Say for instance we had four different winners at the The champ tracks any racer would still have to do good at a different non champ race. This could lead to our last race of the season. Plus You would go to some other races. Lets face it for the most part the championship racers are going to have to go to five races and according how they do early it could come down to the last race. You know what it takes to win a championship about 3 wins and a runnerup or four wins but not trowing out points make that fifth race important for all the racers at any event. Thanks Ron Parker


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Dont forget that the other races count towards the divisional points.

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I agree with Lou if we only count the four events mentioned. I don't see many cars going to the other events such as Farmington, Wilkesboro, Pittsburg, St. Louis. I personally wouldnt feel good about asking Empire to put up $1,500.00 for a non points race at Wilkesboro and asking Danny Dunn to schedule the event when we may be lucky to have half a dozen cars. I would rather drop the race than be responsible for promoting it knowing we will have a bad car count.
I think if we cant figure out a way to count points at the other tracks we might as well race the four and let that be it. Tom I like the divisonal championship but I really dont think that alone will bring the cars.
The racers need an incentive to run as many races as they can. We all want this series to grow. I know this is preliminary talk but we need to be careful of the changes we make so as to not hurt the progress we have made up to now.
Ron H.

Remember that Monster Mopar now has a race at Indy in May. They also have one confirmed for Pittsburgh in June, but the date is not set yet.

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