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Johnnie Kidd
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New to the /6 world..Help
(Mon Jun 18, 2001 10:22 pm)
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I was trying to sift through your previous postings to keep you from repeating anything but my time restraints keep me from doing so.I just got my hands on a 1965 V100 Valiant 3speed. The original 170 runs great with only 82,000 miles (just getting broke in good). I have plenty of experience with the V8 but the 6's are a mystery to me. I need to know how much I can safely bore the block and how much can I mill the heads? Can I get 10:1 comp.? or am I asking to much? How about some cam specs? I am looking for something street worthy but I wanna teach a few 5.0's a lesson with something thats gonna blow their minds. I would appreciate ANY advice anyone can give me on any of these topics. Thanks a lot
MoparLover74@webtv.net
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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
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Re: New to the /6 world, Need a better trans.
(Mon Jun 18, 2001 10:44 pm)
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: I was trying to sift through your previous
: postings to keep you from repeating anything
: but my time restraints keep me from doing
: so.I just got my hands on a 1965 V100
: Valiant 3speed. The original 170 runs great
: with only 82,000 miles (just getting broke
: in good). I have plenty of experience with
: the V8 but the 6's are a mystery to me. I
: need to know how much I can safely bore the
: block and how much can I mill the heads? Can
: I get 10:1 comp.? or am I asking to much?
: How about some cam specs? I am looking for
: something street worthy but I wanna teach a
: few 5.0's a lesson with something thats
: gonna blow their minds. I would appreciate
: ANY advice anyone can give me on any of
: these topics. Thanks a lot
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Welcome, the SL6 is pretty easy to deal with and some what common. If the 170 engine is running good (low miles) just tune it up and bolt-on some intake / exhaust system improvements. (Like a Super-Six 2 bbl. and dual exhaust or at least a bigger header pipe & muffler)
I would first dump that "3 on-the-tree" and go with the 4 or even a "home-brew" 5-speed. Add some sway bars and good tires and drive the car for a while. If you want more power, pick-up a 225 "core" and build that to swap-in when the 170 starts to give you trouble. (in about year 2010)
Oh, also play with the search function on this site, try searching for "170 4 speed" (all) or "cam choice" (all) to see what comes-up.
DD
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Johnnie Kidd
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Re: New to the /6 world, Need a better trans.
(Tue Jun 19, 2001 7:18 pm)
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| (User Above) wrote: |
: Welcome, the SL6 is pretty easy to deal with
: and some what common. If the 170 engine is
: running good (low miles) just tune it up and
: bolt-on some intake / exhaust system
: improvements. (Like a Super-Six 2 bbl. and
: dual exhaust or at least a bigger header
: pipe & muffler)
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: I would first dump that "3
: on-the-tree" and go with the 4 or even
: a "home-brew" 5-speed. Add some
: sway bars and good tires and drive the car
: for a while. If you want more power, pick-up
: a 225 "core" and build that to
: swap-in when the 170 starts to give you
: trouble. (in about year 2010)
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: Oh, also play with the search function on this
: site, try searching for "170 4
: speed" (all) or "cam choice"
: (all) to see what comes-up.
: DD
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Thanks for the advice. I already have a 4 speed , Clifford headers and an Off. 4barrl intake for a /6. I know everyone is all for dumping the 170 for a 225 but I am going to pep this one up first. If I dont get the performance I an expecting I will then replace it. I still need to know whats the max. I can safely mill my head and bore the block.Can I get 10:1 compression or better? I have looked through most of the postings on here concerning the 170 and everyone says to swap it out for the 225. I am going to keep my 170 so this is what I need info. on. As before if anyone at all has any kind of advice for me concerning this PLEASE post it. Thank You
MoparLover74@webtv.net
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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
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Re: New to the /6 world, Need a better trans.
(Tue Jun 19, 2001 8:44 pm)
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: Thanks for the advice. I already have a 4 speed
: , Clifford headers and an Off. 4barrl intake
: for a /6. I know everyone is all for dumping
: the 170 for a 225 but I am going to pep this
: one up first. If I dont get the performance
: I an expecting I will then replace it. I
: still need to know whats the max. I can
: safely mill my head and bore the block.Can I
: get 10:1 compression or better? I have
: looked through most of the postings on here
: concerning the 170 and everyone says to swap
: it out for the 225. I am going to keep my
: 170 so this is what I need info. on. As
: before if anyone at all has any kind of
: advice for me concerning this PLEASE post
: it. Thank You
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Well, I know how you feel about your 170, I am also running one. The one I have is bored .100 o/s to 3.5 and the head is milled .090
With a 4 bbl and headers, it runs 14.20s @ 95 MPH
DD
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richard
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Re: New to the /6 world, Need a better trans.
(Wed Jun 27, 2001 9:11 am)
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| (User Above) wrote: |
: Well, I know how you feel about your 170, I am
: also running one. The one I have is bored
: .100 o/s to 3.5 and the head is milled .090
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: With a 4 bbl and headers, it runs 14.20s @ 95
: MPH
: DD
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I ran a 170 for a while, and I would like to add... tune for reving. That short stroker well out revs the 225 so go for reving when picking a cam. I never raced mine, but it did have hte offy dual singles and that little monkey with the 4 speed would rev like mad and destroy my brothers falcon in every category.
I think 10:1 will be fine as long s you only use good gas and retard the timing to just below pinging and fatten up the mixture.
Based on my calculations Dougs 170 is well past 11:1 cr.
Also, consider geting some good breaks if you don't already. Stop beating on the drums, the disks will really stop you and are much more reliable.
richard-c@e-d-a.com
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