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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 397
Location: Phoenix AZ
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RAS roller rockers... What was the fall out??
(Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:31 am)
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hey guys i was wondering what ever happened to the RAS roller rockers?
there website has a nice looking set now! |
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slantzilla
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Joined: 17 Oct 2002
Posts: 9365
Location: Park Forest, Illinoisy
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:00 am)
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| Inability to deliver and poor quality rocker shaft were the two biggest issues.
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 397
Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:48 am)
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| slantzilla wrote: | | Inability to deliver and poor quality rocker shaft were the two biggest issues. |
ok good to know!
i hear that gary sold out to a new owner... were these issues with the new owner? maybe we can try again for a group buy?
i have no problem calling the new owner and telling him the issues we had and what we would like to see... |
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madmax/6
Turbo EFI
Joined: 07 Jan 2004
Posts: 1444
Location: long beach ca
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:59 pm)
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| Bee very careful.And dont plan a build around there promises.
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 397
Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:04 pm)
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| madmax/6 wrote: | | Bee very careful.And dont plan a build around there promises. |
havn't even talked with them yet...
but i just heard from Edd J that they are under new ownership and thought that i might be worth explaining the issues and maybe get them resolved... |
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madmax/6
Turbo EFI
Joined: 07 Jan 2004
Posts: 1444
Location: long beach ca
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:12 pm)
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| I had worse issues with the new owner.Took 14 phone calls to get my refund.Had me sign a paper saying I wouldnt bash him on any forums.
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 397
Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:34 pm)
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| madmax/6 wrote: | | I had worse issues with the new owner.Took 14 phone calls to get my refund.Had me sign a paper saying I wouldnt bash him on any forums. |
oh... good to know... |
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slantzilla
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Location: Park Forest, Illinoisy
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(Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:55 pm)
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| madmax/6 wrote: | | I had worse issues with the new owner.Took 14 phone calls to get my refund.Had me sign a paper saying I wouldnt bash him on any forums. |
That right there tells you everything you need to know. 
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
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Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:59 pm)
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| slantzilla wrote: | | madmax/6 wrote: | | I had worse issues with the new owner.Took 14 phone calls to get my refund.Had me sign a paper saying I wouldnt bash him on any forums. |
That right there tells you everything you need to know. |
no kidding... you would think a new owner would want a clean slate and try to clean something like that up... |
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slantzilla
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(Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:18 pm)
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In all seriousness, roller rockers on a Slant are about the worst big dollar item you can get. They cost a lot, and return very little.
Trust me, I have 2 sets. 
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
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Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:39 pm)
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| slantzilla wrote: | In all seriousness, roller rockers on a Slant are about the worst big dollar item you can get. They cost a lot, and return very little.
Trust me, I have 2 sets. |
but what cam are you running?
if the head flows up to .550(or Past) and you dont want to run a bunch of duration there isn't alot of other places to get that needed lift...
right now im sitting with 246 @ .050 and revs to about 6000 but my valve lift is only .475... Edd J did the head and it flowed up over .550...
so i have about 30cfm on the table which is alot... |
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Dart270
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(Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:43 pm)
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Just buy a different cam with more lift. 246 @ 0.050" is pretty long duration, so a range of lifts are available.
Lou
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
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Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:13 pm)
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| Dart270 wrote: | Just buy a different cam with more lift. 246 @ 0.050" is pretty long duration, so a range of lifts are available.
Lou |
well i called comp (not my fav) and for .544 valve after lash the best the could do was like 259 duration @ .050 on a 904 lifter... |
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DusterIdiot
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Joined: 29 Oct 2002
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Location: Salem, OR
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Whiskey Tango?
(Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:39 pm)
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| Quote: | | well i called comp (not my fav) and for .544 valve after lash the best the could do was like 259 duration @ .050 on a 904 lifter... |
Dude...don't call comp, they don't know crap about our engines...go to their web page and download the "Lobe Catalog"...spend time looking at the Mopar MM lobes(I know one hyperpakked 198 motor used one of the "M" cams to assist with the ram-tune dyno run on the top end)... I see that lobe 6584 will provide the .570 lift @ 1.5 ratio with a 251@.050 requirement lash would be about .20-ish depending on how tight the ramp is(6585 would be better with lash and a smidge more duration to hit your goal)...I guess if you went with a hemi lobe the 290@050 with a .702 lift would be overkill since the ports in our head will probably eel over on the benefits just past the .550 mark, thus more duration to help at that point.
I spent a year taking notes out of the 2004 Master Catalog while being outsourced (Rob Simmons can say that the dry-erase board in my office was a long rod build up nightmare...Right Rob!!!! LOL). I talked to comp when I came back and they won't recommend any custom lobes or cams
since they can't be guaranteed or warranteed, you have to do the research and detail the cam you want (lobes, LSA, etc) and bear the burden of the design and mistake if it doesn't work.
FYI,
-D.Idiot
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Rob Simmons
SL6 Racer & Moderator
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: Elizabethtown, KY
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I still owe you a pizza, don't I? 
I gotta beat Wayne to the punch on this stuff. He's really mean to me. 
At least I'm not as much of a "Poser" as you are "Cookie"! 