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raPoM
Turbo Slant 6
Joined: 08 May 2009
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Location: Round Rock Tx
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(Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:18 pm)
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| emsvitil wrote: | | So what's the $ per HP ............ |
From what I can see 1,000 for the cam and 500 for the lifters,plus to see max benefit you need roller rockers,when you can get them are about another 500.00 so 2,000 for an average of 30 hp gain depending on build/fuel/power levels that is about 67.00 per hp.
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madmax/6
Turbo EFI
Joined: 07 Jan 2004
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Location: long beach ca
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(Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:08 pm)
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| I would happily pay a grand for 10 more hp NA.I am afraid after I spray I will bee a juice junkie.With simple jet changes I can go from 60 hp increase up to over a 100 hp increase,afraid i will get hooked.Guzzi Mark
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Ceej
SSRN National Champion
Joined: 31 Mar 2003
Posts: 6329
Location: Oregon
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(Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:16 pm)
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On boost the gains will be more significant.
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DusterIdiot
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Joined: 29 Oct 2002
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Location: Salem, OR
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I'm going to go...
(Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:18 pm)
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| Quote: | The roller lifters come out around 500 bucks.
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I'm going to give Scorpion Performance a try on Mech Roller lifters when I run 'the experiment'...
$340+shipping for 16 if you get at Summit isn't bad. Probably closer to $300 if you buy 6 pairs at $45+ shipping each...
-D.Idiot
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Charrlie_S
SL6 Racer & Moderator
Joined: 19 Oct 2002
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Location: Silver Springs, Fl.
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(Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:34 am)
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| Scorpion is just across town from me. If you need me to check on anything.
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DusterIdiot
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Location: Salem, OR
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Hmmm...
(Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:36 am)
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| Quote: | | Scorpion is just across town from me. If you need me to check on anything. |
Thanks Charlie.
I know Summit has to have some mark up beyond the 'handling' fee they charge. I guess it would be interesting to know what the cost would be if they sell direct out the door...
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Ceej
SSRN National Champion
Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: Oregon
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(Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:53 pm)
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I called OCG this morning. They have researched having Roller billets with the rough grinding done delivered to them. He's thinking if we were able to put a Group buy together we could get a better price. Last time he checked on it for a single, it was about $600 for the blank only.
We'll see where Roto-Faze comes in for price.
If this starts coming together and there's enough interest, we could initiate a group buy. Pretty sure OCG would be in for something like that. I'll have to see if Crane/Roto-Faze would be interested.
Put your name on the list if your interested in the concept. Keep in mind, best price will likely be around a grand. If that's not something your going to do, then leave your name off the list. We'll need a real number to work with. This is not for tire kickers.
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CNC-Dude
Turbo Slant 6
Joined: 20 Feb 2010
Posts: 566
Location: N. Ga.
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(Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:04 pm)
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| I made a post over a year ago(do a search)about being able to provide a new 8620 Billet Roller cam(copper plated, heat treated, finish ground to your spec, ready to stick in the engine)in the $600-$650 range and no one seemed interested. So how do you think $1000+ is such a good deal just for the cam....
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Ceej
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CNC-Dude
Turbo Slant 6
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Location: N. Ga.
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(Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:36 am)
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| Yeah, thats it. Sorry, it was a little farther back than I thought. No one really showed any interest at that time to move forward with it. What lifters are going to be used? Doc showed us that an oil pump drive gear is available and compatible with a steel billet, but nobody expressed much interest or desire, only that it was overkill for these engines and the head was the limiting factor moreso than the cam grinds that were currently available with flat tappets, and from most of the comments in that post, many felt that a roller cam was not going to be of much benefit for the investment.
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slantzilla
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Ceej
SSRN National Champion
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Location: Oregon
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(Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:36 am)
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Going dry sump. I'll need to go with Bronze on the Mag though.
CNCdude, send me a PM with your company info.
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Rob Simmons
SL6 Racer & Moderator
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 4447
Location: Elizabethtown, KY
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(Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:04 am)
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Novice question here:
Does the Slant 6 use the same .904 lifters as the smallblock, or is the height different?
If they are the same and the lifter spacing is the same, couldn't we use currently available smallblock lifters?
You can put me down as interested. 
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805moparkid
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 397
Location: Phoenix AZ
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(Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:58 am)
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| Rob Simmons wrote: | Novice question here:
Does the Slant 6 use the same .904 lifters as the smallblock, or is the height different?
If they are the same and the lifter spacing is the same, couldn't we use currently available smallblock lifters?
You can put me down as interested. |
i thought BB rollers with a custom link bar would be the ticket |
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Greg Ondayko
Supercharged
Joined: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 2763
Location: IRWIN PA
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(Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:59 am)
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| 805moparkid wrote: | | Rob Simmons wrote: | Novice question here:
Does the Slant 6 use the same .904 lifters as the smallblock, or is the height different?
If they are the same and the lifter spacing is the same, couldn't we use currently available smallblock lifters?
You can put me down as interested. |
i thought BB rollers with a custom link bar would be the ticket |
I rember going to the auto parts store and ordering 12 of these..
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=211690
Same as a big block...
Remember the slant 6 has many of the same features as the b & RB engines along the crank and cam lines....
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