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Greg Ondayko
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Charcoal Canister Question
(Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:22 pm)
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Hi Guys..
If the Charcoal canister is off the fender and you shake it should you hear bits of "stuff" rattle in the can like a Maraca?
the One on my duster is sounds like a shaker when I rattle it.. I was not sure if it sould be like that or not..
If not does anyone know where i can find a new one?
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Sam Powell
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(Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:17 am)
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Mine have never rattled. Unless you are trying to keep it stock, I suspect you can use any can off a car with the same number of tube hooks ups. Mine had three. I added one to my 69 off a later model car, just to try and hold down the smell of gasoline around the car. That was pretty much a failure since the tank had a vent in it then. 
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Greg Ondayko
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(Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:11 am)
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Thanks Sam..
I do need it to be stock appearing.. I think I will just get one at the Junk yard with the same number of ports - Also will be looking for a non baby rattle type.
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Romeo Furio
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:35 am)
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| Greg, Time to replace as the particles will clog up the carb after a while.My truck has two of them and the "bag" let go and made a mess cloging up the idle curicut,starting out as a ruff idle then getting worse till it no longer would idle.Pulled the carb and it looked like coffee grounds inside. If you fine a source for replacement let us know.
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Romeo Furio
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:39 am)
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| I got the truck smogged before it all happened and you can use compressed air to blow the canister out getting all the "grounds" out so it will pass visual inspection.
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SlantSixDan
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:07 am)
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Get a new charcoal can; a used one is likely to be as bad (or almost so) as your existing one. Emptying out the charcoal and running an empty can is an unwise idea; not only will it create a fire hazard under the hood, but also a working can saves you money by trapping gasoline that would otherwise float uselessly off into the air. Chrysler P/N 4723 551 is a 4-port service replacement for many '80s-'90s applications and can readily be adapted to earlier cars. You need two vent-in ports ("Bowl" or "Carb" and "Tank"), and one purge-out port ("Purge"). Plug any unused ports._________________ 一期一会
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Romeo Furio
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:07 pm)
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| Thanks for the numbers, Dan.
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raPoM
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:29 pm)
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| Rockauto has the 4723 551 under a 1993 Chrysler Imperial for 89.79 just so you guys know.
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SlantSixDan
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:51 pm)
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Actually, RockAuto has the Standard CP3167, which is that brand's cross ref from the Chrysler number. Decent price, and it includes the purge valve._________________ 一期一会
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Romeo Furio
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:51 pm)
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| And many thanks to you young man !!
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raPoM
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:40 pm)
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Your welcome Romeo 
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Greg Ondayko
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:33 pm)
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| SlantSixDan wrote: | | Get a new charcoal can; a used one is likely to be as bad (or almost so) as your existing one. Emptying out the charcoal and running an empty can is an unwise idea; not only will it create a fire hazard under the hood, but also a working can saves you money by trapping gasoline that would otherwise float uselessly off into the air. Chrysler P/N 4723 551 is a 4-port service replacement for many '80s-'90s applications and can readily be adapted to earlier cars. You need two vent-in ports ("Bowl" or "Carb" and "Tank"), and one purge-out port ("Purge"). Plug any unused ports. |
Thanks for the references and part#'s
How woud this work on my 79 duster with an EFi retrofit??
I currently have a 3 port can (that needs replaced) But since the carb is long gone I Have the "bowl"' port plugged.. The "tank" port still goes to the tank and the "Purge" port goes to Engine Vacuum.
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SlantSixDan
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(Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:47 pm)
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The can mentioned in this thread has a built-in purge valve right on top. Hook it up in accord with discussion here._________________ 一期一会
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Greg Ondayko
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(Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:25 am)
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Thanks again Dan!
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Romeo Furio
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Post subject:
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(Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:18 am)
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| Hey Greg, Is Adamsburg auto wreckers still there.?? I remember two fellows named Mike & Mike Ran the place.Right by the front door outside was NOS 68 Coronet quarter pannels lying in the dirt.When I moved I gave them a bunch of parts cars that I had. I'm sure they are long gone.
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