Ozzy Gear Drives, someone needs to send Lou M. (Dart270) a message to see if he can get his hand on the GD set for a SL6 (The one shown here is for the Hemi Six 265)
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:28 am ] |
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| Ozzy Gear Drives, someone needs to send Lou M. (Dart270) a message to see if he can get his hand on the GD set for a SL6 (The one shown here is for the Hemi Six 265) DD
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| Author: | VE Safari [ Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:50 am ] |
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Unfortunately a search for "Diecrest Engineering" on our telephone directories comes up blank. We do have JP Engineering though, who I understand supply Cox brothers with their multi-keyway roller timing chain sets. They sell for about US$80 here. http://www.jp.com.au/TimingChainSets.html Ray from PentaStar Parts and Restorations was talking about producing a run of gear drive sets. Drop him a line via his website: http://www.pentastarparts.com.au/ |
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| Author: | golembieski [ Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:13 pm ] |
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Ok i just posted JP to see what one of those babeys are going to run shipped to the states! And if your all wondering Jegs is backordered on thick intake/exhause gaskets from Mr G for the slants |
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| Author: | golembieski [ Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:26 pm ] |
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Ok i emailed JP they gave me a # in Cally to call, So i call the # in CA and find it is a warehouse and don't deal with the public but they did give me a few #'s to try, Hardcore Racing NY 631-737-0372 Liberty engine Parts PA 516-378-6100 He said these MIGHT carry the parts or be able to order them but they are just local type speed shops. I really wanted one of those nice JP sets i just don't care for hughes. (just a personal opinion ) |
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| Author: | MitchB [ Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:53 pm ] |
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Quote: Ok i emailed JP they gave me a # in Cally to call, So i call the # in CA and find it is a warehouse and don't deal with the public but they did give me a few #'s to try,
I ordered my JP set from Cox Bros. Nice to do business with. I believe the cost with shipping came out to just over $100. Very nice set. A little pricey, but top of the line.Hardcore Racing NY 631-737-0372 Liberty engine Parts PA 516-378-6100 He said these MIGHT carry the parts or be able to order them but they are just local type speed shops. I really wanted one of those nice JP sets i just don't care for hughes. (just a personal opinion ) Mitch |
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| Author: | heckshemi [ Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:38 pm ] |
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Jeg's sells a gear drive for big block mopars for $219. Could it be adapted? |
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| Author: | Godspeedglen [ Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:31 pm ] |
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The problem with the big block one that you see is that it is the three holes cam....If I could find one that is for the one hole cam...I'd be set. A friend of mine and myself made an adapter to make any big block roller set fit the slant so long as it's the one hole...I sure wonder what a lunpy cam in a slant would sound like with that gear drive whining away... 
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| Author: | golembieski [ Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:31 pm ] |
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Wait so a Big block timing set will fit a slant? |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:26 pm ] |
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Quote: Wait so a Big block timing set will fit a slant?
Almost. The crank gear and chain are the same, but the cam gear requires and adapter.  BB Chevy crank and chain are the same too IIRC. |
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| Author: | sandy in BC [ Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:20 pm ] |
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I get a dual idler gear drive in a 1200HP BBC or Wedge but on our little motors the HP loss on a gear drive could never be made up by any advantage it might have. The money might be better spent on roller cam followers or rockers. Hard to beat a good quality, light weight chain drive. On our mudbogger we went to a home made chain drive and lost 150lbs weight and a ton of reciprocating mass and gear drive loss compared to our gear drive NP205 transfer case. If a gear drive was deemed necessary an adapted one from another 6 like 250 Chev or 300 ford might make sense but then you need a backwards cam.... |
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| Author: | Godspeedglen [ Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:47 pm ] |
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Point well taken Sandy...I didn't even think about the rotating weight involved....OK ..I'll just have to be happy with my true roller... |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:07 am ] |
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I wish someone would tell me, what is the big deal about these exotic cam drives. Double roller, tru roller, gear drive, belt drive, etc. I don't feel they are required, or even wanted, unless you are running very high valve spring pressures, and turning the motor over 6,000 rpm on a regular basis. I have raced Mopars, Fords, and Chevys, for over forty years, and have used a roller chain, only on two motors. A 440 mopar with a three bolt cam (only chain available), and a JP timing set from Cox Bros. on one of my slants. A real nice piece, but not neccessary on my motors. I use a stock replacement timing set, with a steel cam gear, and drill the dowel pin hole to use big block Mopar, or Chevy offset bushing to degree the cam. Stock gear set is about $20.00 |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:02 am ] |
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Quote: I wish someone would tell me, what is the big deal about these exotic cam drives. Double roller, tru roller, gear drive, belt drive, etc.
Because they are cool Charlie. Don't you know nuthin'?  I had a '57 Chevy pickup a few years back that had a 350 in it with a B&M gear drive and Flowmasters. Between the 2 it was painful to drive down the highway. Gear drives suck.
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| Author: | Craig [ Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:30 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Wait so a Big block timing set will fit a slant?
Almost. The crank gear and chain are the same, but the cam gear requires and adapter. BB Chevy crank and chain are the same too IIRC. |
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| Author: | Dennis Weaver [ Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:13 am ] |
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Quote: I wish someone would tell me, what is the big deal about these exotic cam drives. Double roller, tru roller, gear drive, belt drive, etc. I don't feel they are required, or even wanted, unless you are running very high valve spring pressures, and turning the motor over 6,000 rpm on a regular basis.....
Charlie, for me there is the durability issue, for starters. I've never pulled a high mile roller chain off a motor (like a cop 360) that had two inches of slop in it like a standard chain and steel gear (forget about the nylon/aluminum crap). I would think there is a smidge less friction with a roller chain (although I know the difference would be almost undetectable in the engine's output). But in my case with the /6 in my Duster, the standard parts store replacement chain makes some wierd-ass racket, and it is getting worse. That is, it seems to be coming from the front cover area at certain RPMs, and the stethescope backs this up. Really hard to describe the sound, not a tapping or rhythmic sound, it sounds, well kinda like dragging a chain over a can. I don't know if the chain is rubbing the cover, or if it just has some strange harmonics at certain RPM's. Sometimes the sound just vanishes abruptly, too. .....I wonder if my cam could be walking and rubbing the front cover.... Anyway, like I said, I plan to go to the roller chain and modify the galley plug to get a little more oil there as well (and inspect to see just exactly what the hell is the matter! )D/W |
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