I haven't removed any attendance points, but I have everything in an Excel spreadsheet that's easy to play with. Just let me know what the consensus is and I'll adjust whatever needs adjusting.

I agree with Ceej that this big of a change will significantly change the career points and makes it a little like comparing apples to oranges for those racers that are no longer participating...

Maybe that's just the evolution of the series..?

I can run some comparisons if anyone is interested.

Here's a little history of the way points have been calculated so far. I posted this in the 2012 Championship thread.
Here are the links to the Career Points and latest Championship threads:

2012 Championship: http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48588

Career Points Total: http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44732

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Points: To have a 60 point race you would have had to either had 25+ cars at the event or 25+ cars the year before. Here on the East Coast we can't come up with a race that has had that many. The most Rodney can come up with was '04 at Clay City and Columbus (Year unknown, but early is slant 6 racing) both of those were 50 point races. But I could be missing some.

1998: There was four races that year (Knoxville, Chicago, Bristol and Clay City). Why isn't the first year listed in the stats?

??? Consecutive round wins: Is there a record for most consecutive rounds won? I figure it's probably between, Rodney (16 rounds), Glen Terry and Ron Hamby?

Hey Alanna,

SSRN points weren't started until the 1999 season. Rodney was declared the Champion for 1998 though.

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Mike Jeffrey might be in the consecutive round wins too.

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You need 33 cars to have 6 rounds and have a 60 point race.

How about consecutive Red light rounds? I have 4 in a row I think! No I'm not happy about it!!

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I finally got around to setting up the spreadsheet for 2013 and came up with a question regarding Rookie eligibility.

Rules state:
Rookie of the Year

This award will go to the Slant 6 points racer that scores the highest number of points during that season and has entered no more than one SSRN Points race previous to that season.

Now that we have 2 day races this will eliminate most of the folks that try their hand at it one year for one race weekend and then come back next year with enthusiasm. Unfortunate, but that's the way the rules are written.

There are two racers that received points this year as Rookies for rained out races.

Mike Andreas and Andrew Shank both received 2 points for being there and not getting to race. By the current rules neither of them will qualify as a Rookie if/when they come back this year to race.

(Mike did earn 1 point back in 2004)

In my humble opinion, both of these guys should still be eligible for Rookie of the Year.

Just a thought to throw out there for future rule change considerations...

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I agree Rob.

The best way to approach this would be to say, "Competed in no more than one SSRN event weekend."

Regardless, I don't think an event where no runs were made should be considered "competed," for these purposes. Not wanting to over complicate things, but stating that this would only apply to events where rounds were run could further improve the rookie field, should we have a repeat of the mad weather situation.

I would be open to making the change retroactive to allow Mike and Andrew a crack at it. This is just one opinion, so speak up people!

My two cents.

CJ

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I went through and removed attendance points from the career totals for a comparison.

I don't mind doing the extra accounting to use the attendance points for each year's National Championship and removing them for the Career points.

Here's the new math for the top 60 WITHOUT attendance points:

Hamby Ron 1550
Hargis Rodney 1410
Parker Ron 1200
Jeffrey Mike 810
Rose Dale (D) 800
Bruner Meril 760
Foster Norman 650
Bruner Gary 540
Pederson Seymour 540
Terry Glen 530
Stevens Gordie 530
Erickson Aric 500
Stoakes C.J. 490
Madsen Lou 460
Bjerklund Richard 450
Myers Charles 450
Cox John 430
Howard Andrew 430
Dutra Doug 410
Schmid Charlie 390
Harrison Barry 360
Chesney Larry 340
Dutra Allen 330
Bruner Lukus 330
Cox Jim 300
Jesiolowski PJ 290
Reese Mike 280
Pine Wendy 280
Schumers Dennis 280
Burns Will 230
Gonzales Sergio 220
Laney Brent 220
Drake Tom 210
Morgan Wayne 210
Mimken Brian 200
Ondayko Greg 180
Drake Leighton 180
Erickson Wayne 180
Goodman Mark 180
Harris Joel 180
Covalt Ryan 170
Davis Jason 170
Terry John 160
Haas Richard 160
Powers Doug 150
Murray Mark 150
Droll Jeff 140
Wright Frank 120
Daugherty Derrick 120
Furio Romeo 110
Etheridge Mark 110
Evans Mike 110
Bjerklund Mike 100
Funk Frank 100
Mayberry John 100
Steelman Oscar 100
Shifflett Becky 100
Bayer Brian 100
Morgan James 100
Mueller Dave 90

And.... Current math WITH attendance points:

Hamby Ron 1613
Hargis Rodney 1494
Parker Ron 1254
Jeffrey Mike 847
Rose Dale (D) 837
Bruner Meril 819
Foster Norman 697
Bruner Gary 591
Pederson Seymour 576
Terry Glen 554
Stevens Gordie 546
Erickson Aric 538
Stoakes C.J. 523
Madsen Lou 520
Bjerklund Richard 486
Myers Charles 465
Dutra Doug 448
Cox John 437
Howard Andrew 426
Schmid Charlie 422
Harrison Barry 380
Chesney Larry 378
Dutra Allen 374
Bruner Lukus 351
Jesiolowski PJ 331
Cox Jim 314
Reese Mike 297
Pine Wendy 291
Schumers Dennis 280
Burns Will 248
Gonzales Sergio 245
Mimken Brian 226
Laney Brent 224
Drake Tom 222
Morgan Wayne 220
Ondayko Greg 204
Drake Leighton 200
Erickson Wayne 198
Goodman Mark 193
Covalt Ryan 186
Harris Joel 185
Terry John 181
Davis Jason 177
Haas Richard 163
Powers Doug 161
Murray Mark 161
Droll Jeff 141
Wright Frank 137
Daugherty Derrick 127
Furio Romeo 122
Etheridge Mark 122
Evans Mike 121
Bjerklund Mike 117
Funk Frank 116
Mayberry John 106
Steelman Oscar 105
Mueller Dave 104
Moran Paul 102
Shifflett Becky 102
Drake Judy 101

There will be some more adjustments as I work with Seymour to figure out the accounting for those first three years. He said they had given an additional 10 points for attendance, but I need to clarify some things with him.

I also forgot to remove the extra 5 points for setting records in 2012 that affects 4 racers.

I like CJ's suggestion that attendance points be used for the Championship each year (It's great for tie breakers and incentive to compete) and having only round win points count for career totals.

Another topic for discussion at the banquet... We're starting the list early this year!

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For a short time back around 2006 Seymour had started recording something like this, but it was short lived.

I would like to see that comparison as well... I'll do some homework and figure out how to go through and calculate it from the records I have...

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I agree, Any rained out event like that should not eliminate someone from ROY quest the following year.

And with the 2 day races, I would not be opposed to say that anyone who ran in 2 races , is still eligible for ROY the next year too. Another slanted opinion!!


Rick

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what is crosstalk?

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I also agree that attending (getting att pts for) a rainout where no competition runs were made would not count against someone being in the running for rookie of the year later.

Lou

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It is a system designed for delay box classes where the top yellow for both lanes comes on at once. In the faster cars lane the top yellow stays on until the tree would normally activate. Then, the tree comes down normally. It was designed to make it easier for box cars to "cross over".

It basically sucks if you're not a delay box car.

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I pretty much have the "Performance Index" worked out for everyone beginning in 2002 through 2012. I'll post a "teaser" in the Race Results section for those interested.

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so just a longer wait before the lights drop? ive never seen this so im in the dark

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