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Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:03 pm ]
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You can make it work with a 225 and a Factory Style Air cleaner. Oh and without cutting your hood or cutting the Brace in the hood.

Holes in the hood are options and Cutting the brace is an option too, but if you want it to look nice and stock like here's what I did:

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Start with one of the 68-69 Dodge/ Plymouth unsilenced air cleaners from a 340, 383 or 440 charger, dart, etc.

With This style air-cleaner only the base rests against only the air filter and Carb Flange... additionally the base does not determine the height of the Lid.. Unlike the 1970 and Newer ones.

Get a Nice not too tall air Filter, or get a regular one and cut it up until you get the height that you need; then buy a real one. (I went with a K&N Here)
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Either Make you own base or Modify A cheap moroso one from a swap meet like i did.. It's Ugly as all hell no one ever sees it.
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I have driven the Dart on the street or 10+ years with this and never any issues. It does help to install a solid drivers side Engine mount to prevent the engine (with hyperpak and air cleaner attached) from rotating up into you hood. Use a Moroso one for a 340 A engine/ A body.. you will get 2 in a set and they will work for two slant projects... cause you will only use them on the left side. (unless you run spool mounts)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-6 ... make/dodge


Greg
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:57 pm ]
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It's sad but true the engineers weren't that far ahead in the early gen of the A-body and the hood to fender clearance in the 63-66's are just not there like the 1967-1976 Fat A-body, or the 1976-1980 F-body...When Thor and I had some driveway time one day we looked at his Dart and the location pretty much required the hood be modified...The being said, if one were an experienced fabricator I think you could come up with a plenum to put over the carb with appropriate ducting to allow 2 modern flat style filters to be used or possibly that scenario and some round tubing to go to a Jeep air filter box where the battery tray sits (you located the battery to the trunk, right?)


2 cents,

-D.Idiot
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:32 am ]
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you located the battery to the trunk, right?)
Yes the battery will be i the trunk for this season. So I have that area available for use. But I already do have a spare hood that I cut some of the bracing out of to lighten it and to get at some rusty areas. So it may give me a little extra room. Plus I wouldn't mind cutting a hole in that one if needed. Greg's idea may work too with the bracing removed.
Lots of thoughts running around in my pea brain! Still trying to let it soak in.
Thanks for the Help!
Rick
Author:  Junior [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:29 am ]
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i wound up keeping the 170 mount because its bigger then the 225 and keeps my z bar lined up correctly. with the 225 mounts the motor sat lower but the zbar was crooked. i didnt like the look or feel of it. i also made my drivers side mount solid by welding a couple pieces of metal to it. i did that before i put the hyper pac on but it works for that too. basically what im getting at is if you are running the 225 mounts you should have enough room to fit everything in there without cutting.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:17 pm ]
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I wasn't aware of any difference in the insulators (mounts), between the 170 and 225 engines. I have a 66 parts catalog, and it calls out the same insulators for the 170 and 225 engines.
There are several different mounts listed with and without CV, CP. (don't know what that stands for, and with and without 4 speed. But between 170 and 225 no difference.
Author:  Junior [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:03 pm ]
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there is. i didnt know for the longest time. kept getting diferent brands of 225 mounts hoping to get something like i had in there when i got the car and couldnt figure out why they were so much smaller. then one day i remembered it was a 170 car and looked it up for that motor and it turned out to be exactly what i was looking for. if you go to rock auto and look up a 1966 valiant with the 170 and find the motor mounts look at the pics and reference it to the 225 mounts. they are worlds apart.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:20 am ]
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The rock auto catalog is wrong, as is most other catalogs. I went through this years ago. If you look the listing for a 66 Valiant with 225 is for mount numbers 2265 and 2264, and the 170 is for numbers 2303 and 2304.
If you look at 1967 valiant the mount numbers are 2265 and 2264 this is correct. The mounts changed between 66 and 67.
Now look up the numbers for a 66 Dart, it lists the same number for a 225 and a 170, numbers 2303 and 2304.
In short the numbers 2265 and 2264 are incorrect for a 66 Valiant, they are for a 67 Valiant.
The reason you had a problem, was everyone was giving you a mount for a 67 car, which will not work.

The factory parts manual does not show a difference between a 170 and a 225 mount, within the same year, "A" body.
Author:  Junior [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:57 am ]
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gotcha, thank you for the clarification. i aways assumed they were just different mounts.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:20 am ]
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gotcha, thank you for the clarification. i aways assumed they were just different mounts.
No problem. Like I said, I went through this years ago, an tore my hair out trying to get the right mounts.
PS: nobody will correct their catalogs. I gave up trying.
Author:  emsvitil [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:40 pm ]
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I used 2303 & 2304 on my 64 225 Valiant


When I got them, that was the number cross-referenced (I'm pretty sure at rock auto too)


Now Rock Auto shows the 2264 & 2265 for a 64 225

and 2303 & 2304 for a 170


The 2304 @ 2303 did look like my original mounts.


What's the difference?
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:12 pm ]
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Rick, I have only one thing to say,,,,,, I HATE YOU !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:45 pm ]
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Rick, I have only one thing to say,,,,,, I HATE YOU !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not me. I love him so much, I am going to marry him. Then I will get the manifolds in the divorce. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PS: 2265 and 2264 mounts are for 67-72, in "A" bodies. Many more years in trucks.
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:12 pm ]
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Thanks Romeo!! :lol: :lol: And no thanks Charlie!

Here are a couple pics. The exhaust manifolds actually look real nice even with the Clifford intake. New starter should arrive Tuesday and I will post a picture. I took a bunch of measurements from from different things to the manifolds if someone wants me to post them I could. Mini stater looks like it may have worked if the rear manifold would have came out about 1" farther then turned down. Manifold diameter is 1 7/8" opening.
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Author:  Red [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:22 pm ]
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Those is bee-otchin'!
Author:  wvenable [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  The Slant Sixth Dimension...
Witness Mr. Rick Covalt. A regular guy who won the Hyper Pak lotto. All he wanted was to race. Little does he know he has just entered a different world. A world filled with admiration, jealousy, hatred, and man marriage proposals. A world called the slant six twilight zone.
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