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Author:  madmax/6 [ Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:14 pm ]
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Probably not with my lack of HP.Will stick my head out of the door and look next time I race.I just like getting sub 1.55 60fts with pure junk.Mark
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:58 am ]
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Sorry Greg, Just hopped on here and saw what was going on.
I am kind of favoring what Mark said as running stock springs over SS or others. My car had better traction and launch with the stock springs on the Dart. When changing to SS it raised the back of the car 5 1/2'' and I went with 2'' lowering blocks also. The blocks have been on the car for at least 8 years now. Also experimented with pinion snubber on and off and saw no change with the SS springs. Clamping the front seems to be the most effective on stock springs. Just theory but low rear wheel horsepower may have to do with it.Ever since the invention of traction compound the thing we have to deal with is too much bite and the chance of breaking things. Tracks like Vegas prep the full length,I hardly do much of a burn out and the car will run as much as 4 tenths slower or more having to power through the sticky stuff. Others prep maybe to the 60' mark. Sorry for the ramble too much once I get going on a thought.
Author:  Shaker223 [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:41 am ]
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I used the Mopar HD leafs & nothing else. Pinion snubber unloaded the axel and caused spinning. 1.59 60'.
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:13 pm ]
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Thanks guys.

Romeo, We had talked about this before with the dart.

I am pretty much in agremment that even in you have a hyped up slant Making 300HP or less you don not need some wacky rear suspension.

That's what I did in the 14 second dart With some sub 2.0 second 60' times and There is still al whole lot of tuning both engine and suspension in Ruster left.

I am of the position now That I would like to stick with the 200k+ mile stock 5 leaf springs on ruster and See what I get.

I have not gotten spinning yet, but what to try other things when the time comes.


I am not Discounting the boost and turbo cars But they run a heck of alot faster and make a heck of alot more power. so Reear Axle control is a bit more critical for these cars.


I have seen some real results with old worn out junk and I also have seen some 15 ~second slant cars run real slow with SS and XHD springs when They dont make enough power to warrant having that kind of spring.


Thank you to all who have participated in the Suspension discussion.

Just need to get me a windshield and Get the rain to stop around here for some racin!
:D

Greg
Author:  1974duster kev [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:24 pm ]
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Anybody like traction bars? or isn't that more of a wheel hop problem solver? I'm just curious about them.


Kev
Author:  slantzilla [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:54 pm ]
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Greg, jutst keep good records of each run, especially the 60' and 330' times. That will let you keep track of how consistently your suspension is working. The more consistent the 60', the easier the car will be to dial.
Author:  turbo66valiant [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:43 pm ]
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Probably not with my lack of HP.Will stick my head out of the door and look next time I race.I just like getting sub 1.55 60fts with pure junk.Mark
I understand. I have a 72 Rallye Charger, 3700lbs and 440 that runs 1.72 60' (12.70's e/t) on stock original springs. Ran the best w/o the snubber but body would squat and hunt around. Adjustable snubber would make it just loose traction. What size tire do you run?


Dennis, what does Mike Jeffrey run on his Diplomat? Caltracs? Stock?
Author:  slantzilla [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:56 pm ]
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To be real honest I do not know. I don't think he has Cal-Tracs though.

Here's a pic from Tri-State last year. Can't really see anything under it.

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Author:  madmax/6 [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:47 pm ]
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Single leaf leads me to believe caltracts.I had a bunch of real low 1.50 60 fts,One 1.49,then I started changeing things to get better.Went from low 1.50s to consistant high 1.50s.Pulled the snubber off and am getting closer to where I was.Mark
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  3-20-11
Well No real Big updates,

I cancelled My windshiled Order With summit, as Everytime I have called Since Feb They Would call the manufacturer and It would be "2 More Weeks".

So I just ordered a large sheet of lexan.. It will be here on monday - I will get out the heat gun and form it over the original glass then cut it and install it.

I did pull the car out and verify that the car shifts correctly with my kickdown Cable eliminator:

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It does shift fine!

I should get the windshield in tomorrow night and Today I think I will throw in the 4:56's

Still waiting on my lowering blocks to be made.


Greg
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:21 am ]
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To be real honest I do not know. I don't think he has Cal-Tracs though.

Here's a pic from Tri-State last year. Can't really see anything under it.

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Dennis, Is Where is this Tristate?


Is it in ohio, or am I waaay off?


Greg
Author:  slantzilla [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:58 am ]
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Greg, that's the other Tri-State in Earleville, Iowa.

Did you try shifting at WOT? That's a neat piece you fabbed up there. Even looks adjustable. :D
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:50 am ]
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Greg, that's the other Tri-State in Earleville, Iowa.

Did you try shifting at WOT? That's a neat piece you fabbed up there. Even looks adjustable. :D
Not yet, But close, I will leave the true wot testing for the track.

I have it adjusted for WOT operation anyway though.


I didnt want the car to blast off the jack and into my garage door! :shock:

Greg
Author:  sandy in BC [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:45 pm ]
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I didnt want the car to blast off the jack and into my garage door!
open the door.........your neighbours should be heads up by now.
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Front Lexan is here 3-21-11
I got my sheet of front lexan today - Summit Ended up Shipping me a sheet of 3/16" instead of 1/8".

Oh well I installed it anyway - Probably added 3~3.5 Pounds to the Front Lexan Weight.


Stock Windshield: 25#, Lexan Windshield 9.5#


Add 9.5# for lexan Windshield install - -
Total Weight Loss since November 2010 Now @ 272.5#



I will rivet it down tomorrow - ran out of time and rivets tonite:-)
Pics:
Template on Cardboard - Oversized.
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Tach reinstalled - Waiting for lexan.
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Trimming and laying out the Lexan:
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More Trimming and test fitting - Many times...
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It fits - Finally - No rivets yet, but the holes are layed out/ Marked for drilling. It's there, just soooooo clean it's hard to see. :-)
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Greg
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