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Author:  NewLancerMan [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:57 pm ]
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Tom do you have a price for the rods and pistons worked up? I'm interested in a set.

thanks
Author:  MJF [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:53 pm ]
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Are these available as little longer? I´d need ~7.15" rod.
We can make longer versions of this rod but they will be custom pieces which are more expensive.

Tom
How much? How long it´ll take after ordering? I don´t know exact measurements yet, I probably start building the engine at winter.
Author:  k1tom [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:20 pm ]
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Are these available as little longer? I´d need ~7.15" rod.
We can make longer versions of this rod but they will be custom pieces which are more expensive.

Tom
How much? How long it´ll take after ordering? I don´t know exact measurements yet, I probably start building the engine at winter.
Price will depend on quantity. One set of 6 it will be in the $650 range. It will take about 10 weeks to complete the rods including engineering plus 4 weeks to get them here. We can reduce the 4 week shipping time to about 4 days if we air freight them in. Air freight will run $40 per set.

Tom
Author:  NewLancerMan [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:50 pm ]
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Tom, what about a price for the non-custom set with pistons? Thanks

MJ
Author:  Dart270 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:34 pm ]
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I just spoke with Tom at K1.

He says the rods will be in stock in about 2-3 weeks. They are being machined now.

He is checking with Brian on piston availability timing and sizes available. I asked him for 3.485" (88.5 mm) or 3.505" (89 mm) bore for mine.

He said the final cost with pistons, pins, rings, and rods with bolts would be under $1000 and possibly as low as $900. I gave him my VISA number for a set and he said it would not be charged until they ship to my house.

Tom will call me back tomorrow once he has confirmed piston info from Brian Nutter at Wiseco.

Cheers,

Lou
Author:  NewLancerMan [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:45 pm ]
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Thanks for the update Lou, I'm definitely interested in a set and would like to see what they end up with in terms of sizes. I was looking at a 3.485" bore for the 2.2 piston, but could go up 1mm if needed. I'm not sure my block is ready for .100 overbore, so that would need some checking.

Thanks again

MJ
Author:  vynn3 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:01 pm ]
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No offense towards anyone intended, but I wish more slanters had the wherewithal to dyno their engines. I'd be really curious what kind of power increase would be made with this piston/rod combo, all else being equal (or are there too many variables anyway?). This package is a lot lighter than the standard long rod/hyper piston combo, is it not?

Just wondering what sort of improvement you guys are expecting (aside from the durability of the forged pistons and stronger rods).
Author:  Shaker223 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:51 pm ]
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He said the final cost with pistons, pins, rings, and rods with bolts would be under $1000 and possibly as low as $900. I gave him my VISA number for a set and he said it would not be charged until they ship to my house.
That's a good price. I hope he considers (a package rod price) since I had to purchase my pistons seperately because I had a custom compression distance.
Author:  Shaker223 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:56 pm ]
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No offense towards anyone intended, but I wish more slanters had the wherewithal to dyno their engines. I'd be really curious what kind of power increase would be made with this piston/rod combo, all else being equal (or are there too many variables anyway?). This package is a lot lighter than the standard long rod/hyper piston combo, is it not?

Just wondering what sort of improvement you guys are expecting (aside from the durability of the forged pistons and stronger rods).
Most everyone that is going to the new rod & piston combo is changing everything up so much it probably would not be a good comparison.
Author:  Dart270 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:07 pm ]
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My guess is 5 HP or less, all else equal. Maybe rings will drop friction losses for 10 HP gain?? A bunch of 5 HP increases can add up. Mostly it's about durability for me.

Lou
Author:  slantzilla [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:32 am ]
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My guess is 5 HP or less, all else equal. Maybe rings will drop friction losses for 10 HP gain?? A bunch of 5 HP increases can add up. Mostly it's about durability for me.

Lou
I doubt ring drag will kill 10 horse, especially compared to 2.2 pistons. They have narrow rings anyway. :shock:
Author:  Dart270 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:14 am ]
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Yeah, I was still thinking comparison with stock 225 stuff...

Lou
Author:  runvs_826 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:10 am ]
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Unfortuantley it's like windage and balancing, you won't neccessarily see the differences in horsepower for each item. However, put in combination with several other hot rod pieces, you'll have a more reliable engine. Unfortunatley it's out of my price range for a quite a while, but my hat's off to K1 on coming through. It's nice to see someone doing this for the slant guys....
Author:  slantzilla [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:32 am ]
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Yeah, I was still thinking comparison with stock 225 stuff...

Lou
What is this "stock" you speak of Lou? :? :shock: :lol:
Author:  nasstee pink dart [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:11 pm ]
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Someone should sticky this so people know where to get these at.
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