Hey Bagel i like your idea and i would help sponser the street car shoot out. The onln problem i see is the logistists of the 40 mile run and bringing them to staging, the timing and the track schudlue would have to support this. On the other hand why don't the street cars do the 40 mile run and we could tech our own cars. Ie me and another to check for things your concerned with . Talk to me Bagel Thanks Possum Parker.







hey bagel put this together and we will help you

I know That I have not made it to a race yet, If I am able I will be there.

Beware trash talk- I hope you guys with nos can keep up with my turbo!!!!!Nothing to do but put the foot to the floor!

Andrew

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I will not live without boost again. I just like the sound of the blowoff valve.

Andrew, have you run to new setup in the quarter, yet? What does it turn? Need to know what to shoot for with mine.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

if it stays dry I will be able to tell you on sunday!!!

Andrew

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Andrew are you coming to Mason Dixon or are you going elsewhere to run it. I may try to come down if you are?

Rick

Sounds like the street car shootout has some interest in it. One point I would like to make is this...most street racers state that the reason they do not want to run delay boxes is because of the expense of buying the electronics.

If you go with the rules Dennis suggested it will turn into who can spend the most $$$. Is that what you really want? Or do you want something that would encourage more participation? The stock slant 6 cars wont stand a chance with the rules suggested...is this really what we need? A class that is going to cost more $$$ to be competitive.



Any thoughts???


Tom

Tom, a street car race with a few rules was suggested a couple years ago and most people complained that the rules were against them. The idea here is for the fastest street car PERIOD!

I don't neccessarily think that the most money in the car will win it. Besides, the 40 mile street drive will separate the "wannabe" street cars.

I can put together my pile of junk in the garage and probably be near the top right now.

I also think that for the sake of logistics, we would have to run this on Friday at CC. They are open for test and tune anyway, and we could save the final four for Saturday.


Charlie, you are correct, I don't consider your car a "real" street car. I have never seen it at the track with street tires on it.

As for the pass when we return, non-NOS cars would have time to turn on the bottle, but no playing under the hood. I'd guess you would be able to check tire pressures too.

My big concern is keeping out the real race cars that someone might toss a set of tires and mufflers on and try to bamboozle the real street cars.

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Hey Bagel where can buy one of them bamboozlers and how fast will it pick your car up. I know this will be poplar with some and some will not like it but how about one rule. Street class if you bring it on a trailer it is a race car so you must drive it to the race and do the Winchester run to be legal. If some one wants to win the street class with a race car I'll tell them get in here with the race cars be a racer see what you got join us your welcome. Thamks Possum Parker PS Bagel we probaly could do this on friday nite at Clay City.






gone bagel bagging back faster than he can go

Itr just seems to be getting to complicated and $$$ to attract new blood to the /6 races. Needs to be simple and with the rules above you are either going to have to run a blue bottle or boosted system to be competitive. I guess my concern is wether or not it is going to attract new racers.




Tom

Who do you want in the series? Do you want to increase the numbers by attracting street slant cars at each race and increase the interest? Or do you want to create a side series were hopped-up semi-race street cars can have a race like the fast four. Design what you want around what you want to achieve.

Could everyone please put a name on their post so we know who you are.


The main thing I would like to see, if the series is to grow, is more entries at the race track. If that is more street stock cars then so be it. Who knows one these guys a few years down the road might build the first 8 sec slant 6 doorslammer. If we do not encourage more people to come out and join us where is this thing going?

I want to know from the guys on this forum that are not currently racing...what is it going to take to get you out there? If it means doing our best to seperate the box and no box cars as long as we can, OK that can be done. If it means more $$ then lets work on that. I think we are all in agreement that two classes is just not an option right now but what can change (or improved) to entice you to start racing with us??


Tom

In my mind, it is all about getting as many Sl6 cars out to the event(s) as possible. It is also good to keep things interesting so spectators and promoters like what we are doing.

I think the Street Slant King race can be run as a dial-in bracket, two prizes should be awarded, one for the fasted street car (best ET) and a pay-out for the bracket winners. That would give the slower cars something to go for and as we know, the fastest cars are not alway the best for hitting a dial-in.
DD

As a slanter who hasnt raced his slant I can tell you what it will take to get me out.

First a race that is a realist distance from my home in Minnesota. Chicago is 7-8 hours away and thats not too bad.

Second thing would be a street class car, my wife owns our 63 Valiant wagon (cam,offy intake, 390 4 barrel, Custom stall, shift kit, and duals soon) and I own our 64 Dart GT Vert with a super six setup. Just between our two cars she can destroy me in head to head but we could be close going for consistent time. I sure wouldn't want her or myself to have to face a car designed to professional drag race.. it would be almost useless to go against a car that is point and shoot.

Lastly it would take some more information in an organized manner for us to plan these trips for racing, it sounds like you all have something for that I just haven't seen it.

Also both of my cars are street driven cars and would have no problem going any where in the U.S.A. but I would have to trailer both of them or one of them to get both to a location unless I only bring one car. (trailer both on my trailer pulled by my 66 townwagon or car dolly on the 63 Valiant pulling my Dart.

I would love to get into this racing and would even plan a vacation around it. But I need more information and some reassurance that i'm not going to drive 12 hours one way to just race one race (i.e. maybe have a show and shine or tech talks and demos at the races....) you might do this already I just haven't seen anything on it...

This is my first post here, but i've posted on .com allot so I know of some here.

Trent
AKA Tethclaw

There will always be someone with more money into there car then me. But it should not stop you from racing. Lets have a street bracket race and award the fastest car with a prize also.
I know that I may have more money in my car then others, but thats the point. I do not want to have the same car or setup as someone else. I want to be the fastest slant 6 car on the street. That is my goal!! When I run at the drags I don't change tires. I run on the tires that I drive on everyday. All of us are going to not like something about the rules, we can't conform to the wants of every person. lets pick a person that will make up the rules and live with that( its not that hard!!)

Trash talk= I will give you guys a head start if you want!! hehehe!!!

andrew

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I will not live without boost again. I just like the sound of the blowoff valve.

A Slant street bracket is a piece of cake, and wouldn't cost a penny more than the series does now. It is also something I have advocated for years, which is simply to separate the street cars from the race cars until you have 2 of each left, then run them against each other for the finals. This has fallen on deaf ears simply because it would stop some of the race cars from getting "ducks" in the early round and make them race each other. It could also have a dramatic effect on the championship each year. You could even present a trophy to the street car that wins the street bracket without adding a whole lot of cost to the deal.

Tom, I don't quite understand your thinking that the fastest car will be the one with the most money thrown at it. By your own admission you have the most expensive car in the Slant series and you're not the fastest now, are you? Besides, so what if the fastest street car has a turbo or a bottle on it? Speed costs money, how fast you wanna spend?

I'm pretty sure I can be real competitive with anyone in the country with just the junk I have out in the shed. I could put it all together, have a streetable 12 second Slant on spray, and still have less than $5000 in it.

I'm also sure that by running true street tires, exhaust, and the street drive into Winchester and back we would definitely sort out the "pretend" street cars.

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