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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:14 am 
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Another baby step forward, the replacement slant six is now sitting on the engine mounts.
My oldest son helped me on Father's Day.
So I guess I'm now just over the halfway point in this project.
Onward!

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:41 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:44 am 
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Okay, so the tranny is not bolted up to the engine yet.
When I put the trans onto the engine, what do I need to look out for?
Like, the torque converter?

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:39 am 
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Did you mark the flex plate and convertor so you know how they should line up? Wiggle, Jiggle, push and shove and you will have it! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:36 am 
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with converter pushed all the way back bell housing should mate with motor flush. if you have to pull it together with the bell bolts something is wrong. get all four converter bolts started before tightening. after verifying your disassembly match marks


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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:19 am 
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The most annoying thing is when the motor has spun and isn't lining up with the trans. I like to start one of the long engine to trans bolts and use it as a pivot point to line up the rest. If you can get the topmost bolt started it makes it easier to line the rest of the holes up.

When it is fully seated, the torque converter should be about 1.5-2 inches back from the lip of the trans housing. If it isn't that far back, spin and wiggle it until it is.

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Last edited by Reed on Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:27 am 
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Did you mark the flex plate and convertor so you know how they should line up? Wiggle, Jiggle, push and shove and you will have it! :D
Unfortunately marking the flex plate and converter will only help if he takes the flex plate off the old motor and puts it on the replacement so the same flex plate is referenced to the same converter
it's not the end of the world if he has to bolt, check, unbolt, spin converter, repeat in order to get them lined up, just a bit of a pain....
Hey idea.... Convert to a stick and the flex plate to converter line up is no longer an issue


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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:27 pm 
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Thanks for the replies fellas!
So today I jockeyed the trans to where its mounted flush to the engine.
I did this before I started any of the bolts.
So maybe the torque converter is ok?

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:47 pm 
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If the back of the block is flush to the face of the trans and the torque converter still spins freely, you are good.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:09 pm 
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I'm not sure now, maybe I'm second guessing myself...
The trans is mostly flush with the engine, a little more so on the drivers side.
I can spin the torque converter with my thumb,
Hmm...

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:33 am 
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Put the bolts in and run the side that is closest up to just before they touch ( Don't pull it in further with those bolts) Then try and rock the engine to the side that is further away. A little wiggling and it should drop in onto your dowels. Now tighten the bolts. Make sure the convertor still rotates freely.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:42 am 
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The drivers side is flush against the engine block, but the pass side still has a gap, a pencil could fit in that gap.
This is after trying to wriggle it into place. The torque will still spin.
So it might be time to get a better jack in order to move the transmission back out and try again.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:28 am 
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Try loosening the long bottom-most driver's side bolt. See if you can wiggle the passenger side into place if the bolt is installed but loose on the driver's side.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:24 am 
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Thanks for the responses fellas!
Reed, I did what you suggested, I do believe I made some progress. Passenger side is closer than it was, still not perfectly flush though.
The torque converter still spins freely.

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 Post subject: Re: Volare project
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:47 am 
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Get a ratchet strap, loop it over the trans, and pull the trans towards the driver's side. That might shift the trans enough to allow the passenger side to pop into place. Could be you are binding on the locating dowels or there was some crud in the dowel locating holes on the block/trans.

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