just looking in to turbo info and all the pictures i see are with a manifold. Do you have to keep as little plumbing a possible my headers collect under starter so that is a long way do go.

Your headers will probably have to be replaced with a header made just for the turbo application.. The starter motor is in the way for turbo applications, but can be worked around. The easiest way is to locate a truck SS bell housing, which has the starter motor down low. I left the starter motor in the stock position since I had already fabricated the adapter for my t-5 on a car SL6 bellhousing. I fashioned the manifolds and the turbo down pipe to fit around the high starter motor. I started from the engine with Dutra duals. There was just barely room for the rear Dutra manifold to clear the starter motor. I had to grind the rear manifold flange down for it to clear the starter motor. I also covered the starter motor with a heat wrap to protect it from the heat of the turbo.

The process I followed was to get the turbo first, and work from there. I used a stock Buick GN '86 intercooler model. I then mocked the turbo into place using wire and temporary braces. Then I imagined where where all the different pipes would go, tryng to see in my minds eye if there was enough room for everything. I started with the exhaust manifold to turbo pipe, and mounted those and the turbo to the engine. Now the turbo is fastened to the engine via the exhaust manifold and pipes. Everything else is fabricated and fit one piece at a time. Down pipe, lubrication line and drain, etc.

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69 Dart Swinger, 230 ci slant, t-5 five speed, intercooled turbo, 4 wheel disk brakes, tubular upper control arms.

One thing to keep in mind is that a cast iron manifold retains a lot more heat in the exhaust than tubular headers. And upstream of the turbo, heat = power. If you do decide to use tubular headers in combination with a header, you'd want to heavily insulate them to keep the heat in -- and this will tend to shorten their life (the tubing metal crystalizes).

Dartvader, what turbo are you using?