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 Post subject: Odd alternator behavior
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:35 pm 
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The factory alternator guag eon my dash is behaving oddly. THe needle always reads above the middle line and wiggles around. The needle also goes higher as the RPMs increase. THis started about a week ago. One alternator already burned out a field so it only made 12 volts at idle, and I don't want to burn out the new alternator I just put on. THe voltage regulator is a known good unit.

Does anyone have any idea what this might be? The new alternator puts out 14 volts at idle, but hat is what it is supposed to do right?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:52 pm 
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Battery with bad cell.........

Try another battery and see what happens.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:48 am 
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If your cranking speed is notably slow and you get severe dimming of lights at idle, then yes, a dead cell in the battery is probably the cause. But, your symptom is also exhibited where the voltage regulator is faulty or has lost its ground.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:05 am 
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No, the lights stay nice and bright and cranking is no problem. I wil double check the voltage regulator ground and try a different voltage regulator.

Would the fact that the van no longer has the lean burn computer effect this issue?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:23 am 
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Do you have good connections, esp. at the battery terminals. Terminals that look fine may be bad. This problem drove me nuts on our old Ford farm truck until I finally traced it down to a bad terminal.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:31 am 
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Lean burn computer's absence will have no effect here.

Is it a new or used alternator you installed...?

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Both alternators I have installed have been used.


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Blown diode(s)?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:00 am 
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Yep, a shorted diode can also cause these symptoms, but usually it is accompanied by a very audible electrical whine from the alternator, especially above idle.

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 Post subject: alt prob
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:40 am 
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I've had diodes both short and open, brushes wear and chip, and field windings go partially bad - all left the alternator partially working, but not well. None of the problems made any noise I could hear. Bearings going bad made a lot of noise.

Many places offer free alternator testing, but when I took mine to Advance Auto parts they had no idea what they were doing. The Mopar alternators are easy to take apart and fix.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:46 am 
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Here's more grist for the mill: the guage on the dash seems to have settled down a bit. THis morning on the way to work it would still bounce a little at idle, but one the RPMs increased it would hold steady slightly above the middle line on the guage.

I still have the two other alternators I tried before and I might try rebuilding them in the (distant) future.


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You can remove the alternator and test it on one of those machines at autozone or any other part store.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:34 am 
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You might want to recheck that regulator while your at it. Spikes from the alternator can make them go wonky.


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