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| Author: | Frank McMullen [ Wed May 03, 2006 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What rear-end ratios were available for Valiant in '64 ? |
I have a '64 Valiant Signet ragtop with six and factory four-speed, 13" wheels... What rear-end ratios were available for Valiant in '64 ? Is the ratio stamped anywhere on the outside of the punkin' ? Thanks ! Frank McMullen |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 03, 2006 1:20 pm ] |
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Standard-equipment ratios in '64 were 3.23 with stick-shift, 2.93 with automatic. Special-order ratios were 3.23 (with automatic instead of 2.93), 3.55 and 3.91. You may find a tag with the ratio affixed under one of the diff cover bolts, or you may not. It's easy enough to check the actual ratio of the actual axle in the car: Chalk the inboard sidewall of the tire that'll turn and block the other tire (or don't lift it up) so that it can't turn even a little bit. Trans in Neutral, parking brake released. Turn the marked tire through two full revolutions and count quarter-turns of the driveshaft by watching the rear U-joint caps as the come to face the pavement. Divide the number of quarter-turns by four to get your ratio. 16/4 = 4 = 3.91 14/4 = 3-1/2 = 3.54 or 3.55 13/4 = 3-1/4 = 3.21 or 3.23 12/4 = 3 = 2.93 or 2.94 11/4 = 2-3/4 = 2.71 or 2.76 10/4 = 2-1/2 = 2.45 9/4 = 2-1/4 = 2.26 |
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| Author: | Frank McMullen [ Thu May 04, 2006 7:37 am ] |
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Thank you ! |
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| Author: | slantvaliant [ Thu May 04, 2006 8:40 am ] |
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Quote: '64 Valiant Signet ragtop with six and factory four-speed
Very nice combination!
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| Author: | Frank McMullen [ Thu May 04, 2006 11:42 am ] |
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Yes, it's neat... pretty snappy up to about 45 MPH, then it starts to get winded, once you're in top-gear... I'm curious how it would drive with 14" wheels, as opposed to the stock 13"... previous owner (that guy again!) slapped some 175-75R13s on it, which have a mounted diameter of about 22"; the original 6.50x 13s had a diameter of about 24.5 "... My curiosity about the rear-end ratio stems from driving this car for a while... it seems like trying to cruise faster than 60 mph is really pushing the machine hard (busy sounds from under the hood)... I'm beginning to suspect it has stump-puller gears... This is one of my newer cars, BTW... I'm used to flathead MoPars that definitely have stump-puller rears... would like to think my Valiant could safely cruise a little faster than my '41 DeSoto... |
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| Author: | dakight [ Thu May 04, 2006 1:54 pm ] |
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I once had a 62 hardtop and a 63 2 dr sedan (post). Both of those would cruise all and all night at about 90 mph. That was flat out all they would do but they would do it for hours on end without complaining. |
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| Author: | slantvaliant [ Thu May 04, 2006 3:28 pm ] |
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My '64 sedan had 185-80R13's for years. With a 2.94 rear, it got around town just fine, and did well on the highway. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu May 04, 2006 3:37 pm ] |
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Boy, yeah, if you run out of steam at 45mph, then something's definitely the matter. Probably not super-deep rear gears; even if you for some reason had a 3.91 gearset in your rear axle, you ought to be able to do better than 45! Definitely check the rear axle ratio so you know what you've got, but also check other things that have the effect of limiting top-end: Exhaust restriction (can be very tricky to track down), worn cam, faulty distributor advance mechanism, etc. 14" wheels + 205/70R14 BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires are a combo I like a lot on early A-bodies. |
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| Author: | Frank McMullen [ Fri May 05, 2006 2:50 pm ] |
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Will see if I can get a tach on it this weekend and find out just what kind of revs I'm pullin' out on the highway... Will also see about gettin' underneath and determining rear-end ratio. |
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