Sounds perfect to me.
I'm a proponent of 2-stage carbs.
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| Author: | marc426 [ Wed May 10, 2006 3:25 am ] |
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Hi everyone, I just got myself a 28/30 staged 2bl. It's off a Volkswagen Golf II. It's a Pierburg 2E. I'd like to feed my good ol' 170 with it. I know... I should seek a BBS or a BBD but here in Europe, I can't seem to find any of those for the prices I'd like to pay... Since there ain't no Big 1bl. Carb, it seemed to me this 28/30 could do the job. What do you think about it? Of course I'm planning to tune it properly but I first post post this message before rebuilding it in case somebody tell me to stop because it will start the 3rd world war or anything... Thanks for your help! Marc |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 am ] |
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Sounds perfect to me. I'm a proponent of 2-stage carbs.
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Wed May 10, 2006 7:23 am ] |
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I think is going to be perfect, I'm experimenting with euro staged 2bbl like solex from peugeots and that stuff. they work better than a regular 2bbl. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 10, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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H'mmm. I think you may find that particular Pierburg 2E is too small for your 170 (2,8 litre), because that carburetor was used on VW models with engines between 1,3 and 1,6 litre, about half the displacement of your engine. I cannot find a picture of the mounting flange, so I do not know what kind of adaptation you would have to do, but here is what they look like from the top:  H'mmm. Lots of hookups and connections! Hope you have got some documentation available for this carburetor. Let us know how it works out! |
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| Author: | marc426 [ Wed May 10, 2006 9:11 am ] |
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Right,might be a little small. But compared to a 1bl..What can i get, acceleration bog? Lean at high rpms? For the vacuum hoses and all that stuff, i'll just tear it up. I just want a carb that makes my car works!!! I'll even drive without a kickdown for a while i think... |
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| Author: | Valianator [ Wed May 10, 2006 10:18 am ] |
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Quote: ...about half the displacement of your engine....
That gets me to thinkin'... how 'bout TWO of 'em! -mounted on something like an Offy intake...I know, I'm makin' it complicated now  Sure would look cool though. |
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| Author: | 70valiant [ Wed May 10, 2006 10:24 am ] |
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DO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT A KICKDOWN! you will ruin the transmission. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Wed May 10, 2006 2:03 pm ] |
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Quote: H'mmm. I think you may find that particular Pierburg 2E is too small for your 170 (2,8 litre), because that carburetor was used on VW models with engines between 1,3 and 1,6 litre, about half the displacement of your engine. I cannot find a picture of the mounting flange, so I do not know what kind of adaptation you would have to do, but here is what they look like from the top:
H'mmm. Lots of hookups and connections! Hope you have got some documentation available for this carburetor. Let us know how it works out! The overall area is between the small BBS for the 170 and the large BBS for the 225. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 10, 2006 2:09 pm ] |
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Quote: The overall area is between the small BBS for the 170 and the large BBS for the 225.
Interesting, where did you come across this information?
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Wed May 10, 2006 2:18 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: The overall area is between the small BBS for the 170 and the large BBS for the 225.
Interesting, where did you come across this information?Math.......... bbs 1 9/16..... 1.5625"..... 1.917sqin BBS 1 11/16.... 1.6875"..... 2.237sqin 28mm/30mm.... 1.102" + 1.181" = .954sqin + 1.096sqin = 2.05sqin |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 10, 2006 2:21 pm ] |
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Lookit that...staring me right in the face and I looked right past it!
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| Author: | marc426 [ Thu May 11, 2006 2:57 am ] |
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Quote: DO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT A KICKDOWN! you will ruin the transmission.
Well, how can it ruin it since when you're not at WOT, the kickdown isn't engaged? Just what I think, i'm a newbie in auto trans and not really good in anything !
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Thu May 11, 2006 3:16 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: DO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT A KICKDOWN! you will ruin the transmission.
Well, how can it ruin it since when you're not at WOT, the kickdown isn't engaged? Just what I think, i'm a newbie in auto trans and not really good in anything !Actually it is engaged........ The kickdown linkage is also a throttle position sensor for the transmission. It's only at the WOT position that it will force a downshift (if it's possible to do) The more throttle you have, the higher the shift speed and the higher the internal pressure for various internal transmission circuits. Without the throttle position sensor, the transmission will shift at low speeds, and have low pressures on the bands, etc. no matter how you're actually driving. |
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| Author: | marc426 [ Fri May 12, 2006 2:42 pm ] |
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Like a throttle position sensor, ok... What about kickdown cables? Are they just plain cables? They list at 50$ for a lokar. If it's just a cable, I can do it myself!! Did anyone do this before? Marc P.S : is the length of the cable a critical point? |
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| Author: | RossKinder [ Fri May 12, 2006 7:48 pm ] |
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Quote: Sounds perfect to me.
Speaking of which, how do you ID, or should I say find, staged as opposed to non-staged? Is one much more common than the other? Did Mopar go one way or the other? I'm a proponent of 2-stage carbs. TIA |
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