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 Post subject: Volvo rear end
PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:47 pm 
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Just wondering, has anyone used a Volvo rear on their early A body.
Was looking for a rear to go with the bolt pattern of the frount brakes I'm going to use. While searching the self service wrecking yard near me, I measured a Volvo Wagon. The rear is very close to same track as my Valiant, has lower gears, the later bolt pattern, and Volvos are four wheel disc brakes.
I'm thinking, remove the coil spring pads, weld on leaf spring perches, have a driveline modified and were in busness.
The idea here is to make this old Valiant really nice, using mostly wrecking yard parts.
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Makes sense to me...but I like Volvos.

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My primary concern would be the bolt pattern. With Volvo being a European manufacturer there is a better than even chance that the bolt pattern is a metric size which may be close but not identical to a standard Mopar pattern. For example, more than a few people try to use the 5 on 100mm bolt circle wheel on an early A-body becasue they are close to the standard 4", but they are not close enough for safe and reliable operation. 112 mm will be close to 4 1/2", but not identical. Additionally, the lug bolts themselves will likely be a metric size and pitch. I see a lot of opportunity for major difficulties and little upside.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:09 am 
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120 Series Volvos are 5x4.5". Dad used to have a 122 he autcrossed and used wider Ford wheels. My '73 Volvo 145 was not 5x4.5", but is like the newer RWD stuff at 5x4.25". Not a good choice for wheels either especially since it doesn't match anything Mopar.

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I think there is some chance the bolt pattern is the same as Dakota....that would make a Volvo a good swap to replace a Dakota 7.25 diff.

Volvo wheels are 15" and have a different offset.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:32 am 
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I think there is some chance the bolt pattern is the same as Dakota....that would make a Volvo a good swap to replace a Dakota 7.25 diff.

Volvo wheels are 15" and have a different offset.
Dakotas are either 5x4.5" or 6x4.5". I have a '96 that is 6 lug and I have an earlier rear end to make it 5 lug. For the front I just need a pair of rotors. RWD Volvo 5 lug wheels fit no Mopars front or rear drive.

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I have a 88 Dakota here that is 5 x 4.25. Life would be much easier if it was 5 x 4.5 like the Valaint...but it aint.

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unless someone cobbled something together all Dakotas til 90 were 5 lug-on-4-1/2. NOT 5 on 4-1/4!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:49 am 
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I have a 88 Dakota here that is 5 x 4.25. Life would be much easier if it was 5 x 4.5 like the Valaint...but it aint.
Maybe it's time to upgrade vehicles ya crazy Canuck. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Somebody did cobble this together.....Chryco Canada. I notice there is a pile of differences between Canadian and US Dakotas. I have never seen a Canadian carbed Dakota or a 4 cyl Dakota....or a 5 speed Dakota...(87-88)

Believe me...the wheels are not 5 x 4.5

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:46 pm 
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To the best of my knowledge the only V6 Dakotas that got carbs were '87s. I don't know about the 4s. I have the last year of the 1st Gen Dakota with the Jeep 2.5 and a 5 speed. It's an ok truck, but two of the 4 cylinder version of the AX-15 have given me trouble. Since I don't have emmisions testing where I live I was considering a slant for the truck. More legal though would be a 4.0 out of a Jeep.

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I'm having trouble figuring out how you'd put an inline 6 in a Dakota without some pretty major surgery. Mine ( '98 ) has a 5.2/318 V8 and clearance is pretty tight. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be a major project. I've seen pictures of a Dakota with a Viper V10 in it, but it appeared that the installation required extensive sculpting of the firewall.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:23 pm 
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I measured our Dakota for a slant when the 3.9 V6 was giving us fits ( I have plenty 'o slants). There is just no sensible way to do this. I have done lots of swaps and this one just doesnt make sense. The slant is way too long for a Dakota....the oil pan is wrong...the trans wont bolt up....etc etc.

Actually I hate our Dakota......

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:49 pm 
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I'm having trouble figuring out how you'd put an inline 6 in a Dakota without some pretty major surgery. Mine ( '98 ) has a 5.2/318 V8 and clearance is pretty tight. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be a major project. I've seen pictures of a Dakota with a Viper V10 in it, but it appeared that the installation required extensive sculpting of the firewall.

Maybe it would work without the radiator...............


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I'm having trouble figuring out how you'd put an inline 6 in a Dakota without some pretty major surgery. Mine ( '98 ) has a 5.2/318 V8 and clearance is pretty tight. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be a major project. I've seen pictures of a Dakota with a Viper V10 in it, but it appeared that the installation required extensive sculpting of the firewall.

Maybe it would work without the radiator...............


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Relocate it to the bed. I saw it done on a Dakota with a Cummings Turbo Diesel in it. :shock:

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