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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:01 pm 
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I have a 1960's Dodge pickup with a slant six and three speed. I also have a newer 318. What would it take to put the 318 into the truck? Please don't be angry. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:30 pm 
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Should be plenty of room in the bed for it. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:39 am 
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The 318 is the slant six of V8's because of it's reliability. I'm no expert on the Sweptline trucks, but you will probably need to upgrade the radiator and you my need a V8 bellhousing for the transmission. Try these guys as well for some info.

www.sweptline.org

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:31 am 
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yes you are a bad man for asking :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:57 pm 
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A former neighbor of mine had a '60 Dodge pickup into which he shoehorned a 440 and a 4 speed. It was a beast.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:41 pm 
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I am sure that it will need at least some if not all of the following to accomplish this swap:

Motor mount adapters
V8 motor mounts
V8 bellhousing if keeping the 3 speed
V8 clutch/flexplate
possible shorter driveshaft

I've never done a swap into such a truck so there may be more or less but it seems pretty straight forward.

Russ


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:03 pm 
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the trucks arent as difficult as the cars. just need the V8 bellhousing if youre happy with the 3 speed, also a V8 flywheel (larger dia) and clutch,
the brackets that bolt between the motor and the rubber mount (if I remember right these can be had off of any smallblock truck at least thru the 80s; dont remember which side, but one of these is the same between a 318-360, the other side is wider on a 360 than a 318; just be sure they came off the same sized motor as you are using, trucks and vans use the same ones) and a bigger radiator. If you keep the 3 speed no need for a different driveshaft. I had a 69 D 100 and the guy that bought it from me did this swap. One of those vehicles I wish I'd have kept! Keep the 6, when gas goes above $3 again youll be glad you did!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:34 am 
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Thanks for the input guys. One more question: Would a 1964 Dodge short box with a 225 and three speed be capable of towing a car trailer with an antique car? I don't need to go 100 miles per hour, but I would like to be able to tow my old car. That's why I was considering the 318. thanks again for your help. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:53 pm 
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I once pulled a '65 Valiant home with a '90 Buick Park Avenue and a class II hitch. Possible? Yes. Advisable? No. But It was only 30 miles one way and I drove mildly. My feeling on the matter is that the /6 can take pulling a light car like an A body but the brakes on a 40+ year old pickup may not be. You'd have to go really slowly and leave lots of room to brake.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:30 pm 
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Thanks for the input guys. One more question: Would a 1964 Dodge short box with a 225 and three speed be capable of towing a car trailer with an antique car? I don't need to go 100 miles per hour, but I would like to be able to tow my old car. That's why I was considering the 318. thanks again for your help. :)
Of course a slant 6 could pull a trailer. A good rule of thumb would be to never pull more than the weight of the truck (that includes vehicle weight and trailer weight), brake upgrade- get larger brakes and maybe a clutch upgrade. Just what I would do.

Russ


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:54 pm 
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Heck yes you can pull your car and trailer,

I pulled my 49 Plymouth Special Deluxe all over the SE for shows between 1977 and 1989. I don't know that I drove especially carefully, just not over 70 mph...with a slant six '64 d100, 3 speed A745 and stock brakes. I admit to leaving a lot of room to stop, but that is just my habit anyway. Now that I swapped to disc brakes I know it will stop more quickly. I did add trailer brakes for the tows back then, however. Dodge slant six trucks will be around when cockroaches are extinct.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:34 am 
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Rock, did you use a kit of some kind for the disc swap, or make your own way? I would like to do this to my 71 truck for obvious reasons.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:59 pm 
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Howdy 63..

I got Ray Suiter's (Helitools) kit from ugly truckling.com. The parts are pretty standard and could be assembled at a store without needing to get a kit of already assembled parts. Went together perfect, not a problem except I kept getting the wrong or a bad master cylinder. Once I bought a NEW one, off we went! What Ray did that is very helpful and could be done by your machinist because Ray went out of the business, is to machine the backing plate the caliper grabs against, and he turned a bushing that goes over your spindle to fit the late model metric wheel bearing to your spindle. I don't watn to dissemble to trace the backing plate but would measure it up for you, just good steel plate. I will be glad to PM you the parts list if you PM me. I think all told it was about $450 for the front axle. I sprung for a power booster too since I was into the system. It feels a lot like the other pedal used to feel. I used a new drum brake set on the rear, along with green bearings. Man, you can't believe how it stops!.


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