we thought we knew slant six engines pretty well, but theres one at an auction this weekend that has us a bit baffled as to the application, it has a manual transmission, with a bell housing larger then that of our 64 a100 three on the tree, so guessing its a 4spd(od?) it has airconditioning, and a generator, the starter has like a belt around the middle outside, single barrel, looks like maybe alum intake man. huge air cleaner, the back vent on the valve cover has a little cap with a hose that runs down to under the engine somewhere,
any ideas what its from? this auction has a couple old flathead 6 dodge trucks, a couple willys and LOTS of tractors, our other interesting find was a pair of homemade duals, with pieces of metal welded in holding two rims together...thanks

The starter you're describing is an Auto-Lite (Prestolite) MDT-7002 or MDT-7009, as used on '60-'61 slant-6 engines. The cap-and-pipe off the valve cover's rear chimney is a road draft tube as used on slant-6s worldwide in '60, standard equipment everywhere except California in '61 and everywhere except California and New York in '62, and discontinued after '62 when PCV became standard equipment (it was optional/required in CA for '61, optional/required in CA and NY for '62). The "huge air cleaner" you're describing is also a '60-'61 piece -- you probably noticed either a round hole in its sidewall or a round snorkel protruding from its sidewall. Likewise, the DC generator was used on '60 slant-6s except in Valiants, and also as standard equipment on Valiants through '62 in Canada. Air conditioning: Almost certainly aftermarket (dealer or otherwise, would be easier to say which with info on type of compressor you saw).

So: Probably a 225 out of a '60 Dart or Plymouth. Transmission probably an A903 or other 3-speed manual.

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

thanks dan!

Dan, Could this have possibly been a heavy duty slant from an early 60's Powerwagon? AndysGT, These were typically painted yellow and did have a larger bellhousing and a nice piece to have.

The description doesn't sound like it, no. Slant-6s didn't go into Dodge trucks til '61, and they had alternators right from the start, not a generator. The '61 units did have a road draft tube and the starter as described, but '62-up units had one of a couple starters and air cleaners other than the unit described, and '63+ units all had PCV. So, no, I stick by my original guess.

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

I think Dan is dead-on with this.

Sounds identical to my '60 225.

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thanks guys, i went back out today and its blue, it could obviously been painted, but for what its worth...we might get it if it goes cheap

Color for a 1960 225 Slant was a metallic turquoise.

Quite a few parts on that year Slant that are unique. That's would be a nice find for us Forward Look Slant Sixers.

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i dont know that wed be able to use much off of it, im sure some universal things we could use for spares, how much would anything on it be worth?

It's usually not a year that someone picks when they are doing engine mods because they eventually improved on quite a few things from this first year design...such as more freeze plugs (3 to 5) on the side of the block, ribbing on the manifold to help prevent cracking, etc.

For the most part, the block, head, and internals are universal to Slants.

I believe that the spark plug tubes are slightly different on the '60-'62(?) in that you need to use the washers that come with the plugs.

The aluminum intake/carb/air cleaner, road draft tube, valve cover, motor mounts, starter, generator, and possibly oil pan, would bring some interest if someone was doing a restoration.

Hard telling what its worth. Maybe something, maybe nothing.

I'm taking a road trip next weekend to pick up a '60 Slant that is in pieces. The conversation started with my inquiry into a set a motor mounts to keep for spares. Ended up with the guy GIVING me the motor because he doesn't want it scrapped.

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The first few years of the SL6 had a super heavy, (86 lbs) large counter-weight crank with the small "hub" and many were only drilled for auto or manual trans, not both. (take a look at the rear of the crank)
I have used a couple of these cranks and you can feel the extra 10 lbs of rotating weight.
DD

That change didn't come til '67-'68. There's no particular reason to prefer a five-plug to a three-plug block.
The exhaust manifold got its first structural improvements in '65, then every few years thereafter got modified again. That's a replaceable part so not really a reason to reject any particular engine.
I disagree. Doc has already noted the early-type crank, and there are other differences as well. Most of them do not prevent interchangeability, but...!
The plug tubes are identical '60 through '74; the cylinder head itself is slightly different in '60-'62 which is why you use the ring washers on the spark plugs with a '60-'62 head but not with a '63-'74 head.
H'mm. The carb's directly interchangeable with '60-'61 full-size and '60-'66 A-body slant-6 installations.

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

I was speaking more in general regarding interchangeability...but I did forget the detail with the differences in the early head regarding the plug tubes.

And I agree with the carb interchange, I was talking more about it's desirability if someone was doing a "numbers matching restoration" type rebuild on one of the Early Slant/Late Forward Look cars.

I wasn't aware of the early crank differences.

Thanks for the info Doc and Dan.

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