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Author:  Joel Harris [ Fri Jul 06, 2001 8:12 am ]
Post subject:  TRW pistons

I was just checking inventory at Federal Mogul on the TRW forged pistons that we have left for slant 6 engines and thought I would share it with you. The results are as follows:
L2125F Std.- 6 pistons
L2125F .030"- 41 pistons

L2502F Std.- 56 pistons(2.2L with 198 rods)
L2502F 100mm- 4 pistons



jharri2@fmo.com

Author:  Chad [ Fri Jul 06, 2001 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW pistons

Quote:
: I was just checking inventory at Federal Mogul
: on the TRW forged pistons that we have left
: for slant 6 engines and thought I would
: share it with you. The results are as
: follows: L2125F Std.- 6 pistons
: L2125F .030"- 41 pistons
:
: L2502F Std.- 56 pistons(2.2L with 198 rods)
: L2502F 100mm- 4 pistons

OHHHH Charlie: bust out the check book ;)

beardliz@msn.com

Author:  Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra) [ Fri Jul 06, 2001 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

These are FORGED Pistons at a reasonable price. I have used both types and they are strong units. (also a bit heavy weight wise)
The 2125F uses the 6.700 225 con rod, the 2502 must be used with the 7.001 long 198 con rod.
I show this piston in my stroking article.
DD
Quote:
:
: I was just checking inventory at Federal Mogul
: on the TRW forged pistons that we have left
: for slant 6 engines and thought I would
: share it with you. The results are as
: follows: L2125F Std.- 6 pistons
: L2125F .030"- 41 pistons
:
: L2502F Std.- 56 pistons(2.2L with 198 rods)
: L2502F 100mm- 4 pistons

Author:  Charlie Schmid [ Sat Jul 07, 2001 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW pistons

Quote:
: OHHHH Charlie: bust out the check book ;)


No kidding. Just called Summit, and priced the L2125F+30 pistons. Talk about sticker shock. I used to get them for about $9.00 a piece. They are now just under $300 for a set of six.
Charlie

flturbo6@aol.com

Author:  andrew wagner [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

where would your compression be at if you used a 2.2 liter or one of the vw 88mm pistons with the 6.700 rod and would milling the block and the head get you back up to a 8 to 1 cp ratio? could this be done?

andrew wagner
Quote:
:
: These are FORGED Pistons at a reasonable price.
: I have used both types and they are strong
: units. (also a bit heavy weight wise)
: The 2125F uses the 6.700 225 con rod, the 2502
: must be used with the 7.001 long 198 con
: rod.
: I show this piston in my stroking article.
: DD

Author:  dschumers [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: where would your compression be at if you used
: a 2.2 liter or one of the vw 88mm pistons
: with the 6.700 rod and would milling the
: block and the head get you back up to a 8 to
: 1 cp ratio? could this be done?
:
: andrew wagner


Well Andrew, I can tell you this much. Mine with the 198 rods came up with a deck height of -.028" on a stock uncut deck. The 6.7 rod is about .300" shorter so theoretically, deck height would be -.328". You could probably get away with decking the block .125" which would get you back to about -.200" Chop about .090" off the head, and add an -.060" overbore, and theoretically you would be just about right. (This message not to be used for any purpose other than it's original intent)


aschumers@aol.com

Author:  Chad [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: Well Andrew, I can tell you this much. Mine
: with the 198 rods came up with a deck height
: of -.028" on a stock uncut deck. The
: 6.7 rod is about .300" shorter so
: theoretically, deck height would be
: -.328". You could probably get away
: with decking the block .125" which
: would get you back to about -.200" Chop
: about .090" off the head, and add an
: -.060" overbore, and theoretically you
: would be just about right. (This message not
: to be used for any purpose other than it's
: original intent)

i hacked .145 off my deck on an angle, and didn't hit water! it still runs.....

beardliz@msn.com

Author:  andrew wagner [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

that gives me some ideas! thank you! I am just trying to get around using 198 rods since they are hard to find.

andrew wagner
Quote:
:
: Well Andrew, I can tell you this much. Mine
: with the 198 rods came up with a deck height
: of -.028" on a stock uncut deck. The
: 6.7 rod is about .300" shorter so
: theoretically, deck height would be
: -.328". You could probably get away
: with decking the block .125" which
: would get you back to about -.200" Chop
: about .090" off the head, and add an
: -.060" overbore, and theoretically you
: would be just about right. (This message not
: to be used for any purpose other than it's
: original intent)

Author:  Chad [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: that gives me some ideas! thank you! I am just
: trying to get around using 198 rods since
: they are hard to find.
:
: andrew wagner

this may not be a feasable alternative to all parties: instead of doing 198 rods and 2.2 pistons i decked the block .145 the surfacing machine was much closer than the rods and pistons at the time.

beardliz@msn.com

Author:  Doc [ Mon Jul 09, 2001 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: where would your compression be at if you used
: a 2.2 liter or one of the vw 88mm pistons
: with the 6.700 rod and would milling the
: block and the head get you back up to a 8 to
: 1 cp ratio? could this be done?


I would get the 225 pistons and trim or machine a dish into these to adjust the CR to 8 to 1. These pistons have a thick head so there is lots of material there to work with.
DD

Author:  Darrin [ Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: I would get the 225 pistons and trim or machine
: a dish into these to adjust the CR to 8 to
: 1. These pistons have a thick head so there
: is lots of material there to work with.
: DD

Do the 225 pistons have enough material to be machined down far enough to be used with the 198 rods? I am looking for about 12 to 1 compression and I have a set of 198 rods. THANKS! Darrin

dartman225@webtv.net

Author:  Doc [ Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: Do the 225 pistons have enough material to be
: machined down far enough to be used with the
: 198 rods? I am looking for about 12 to 1
: compression and I have a set of 198 rods.


No, there is not enough material on the 225 piston to do that.
Go take a look at the "Stroking the SL6" article I have posted in the article section, the "flat top" 2502 2.2 Forged piston will give you mid 11 to 1 CR and then you could mill the head / block for the rest.
DD

Author:  andrew wagner [ Mon Jul 09, 2001 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

did you have anything done to the push rods since you milled the block?

andrew wagner
Quote:
: this may not be a feasable alternative to all
: parties: instead of doing 198 rods and 2.2
: pistons i decked the block .145 the
: surfacing machine was much closer than the
: rods and pistons at the time.

Author:  Darrin [ Tue Jul 10, 2001 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons

Quote:
: No, there is not enough material on the 225
: piston to do that.
: Go take a look at the "Stroking the
: SL6" article I have posted in the
: article section, the "flat top"
: 2502 2.2 Forged piston will give you mid 11
: to 1 CR and then you could mill the head /
: block for the rest.
: DD

Will a 1.78 intake and 1.50 exhaust valves fit in a .045 oversized bore? THANKS! Darrin

dartman225@webtv.net

Author:  Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra) [ Wed Jul 11, 2001 4:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: TRW Forged Pistons & O/S Valves

Quote:
: Will a 1.78 intake and 1.50 exhaust valves fit
: in a .045 oversized bore? THANKS! Darrin


The 1.78 is not a problem, the 1.50 exhaust will need to be checked, if the head / valve guides are well centered over the chambers, the 1.50 will clear. The exhaust side is close so everything must be checked for proper clearance.

The biggest valves I have put into a SL6 were 1.875 Int. and 1.540 Ext. on a 3.5 bore. (.100 overbore)
DD

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