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Author:  ceej [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Alternator bracket on Decked block

The alternator bracket was a bit cock-eyed sitting on it's mounting pads after serious decking of the block.
Fopar stopped by and recommended slotting the bolt hole that goes to the head.

I clamped it down on my mill and cut the slot to allow the bracket to sit flush on the block and the head. It's all those little things.

I just finished grinding down the pads on the manifold side of the block to clearance for the Dual Dutra Duals.
When I put the DDD's up to the head, they interfered with the pads. A similar issue with headers as Fopar tells me.

I've got a long way to go! My hands are still tingling from all the grinding, and my nose is full of Iron dust! :lol:

CJ

Author:  DusterIdiot [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Yep...

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I just finished grinding down the pads on the manifold side of the block to clearance for the Dual Dutra Duals.
When I put the DDD's up to the head, they interfered with the pads.

That happened when I mocked up the split manifold version, it's the late block with that pad under the block deck that does it...
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The alternator bracket was a bit cock-eyed sitting on it's mounting pads after serious decking of the block.
You might have not had to do that if you used a later model sheet metal bracket off a 1979+ F/M/J body or a 1979-1987 Truck... (they only bolt to the block, not the head....)


FYI,

-D.Idiot

Author:  sandy in BC [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:48 am ]
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You might have not had to do that if you used a later model sheet metal bracket off a 1979+ F/M/J body or a 1979-1987 Truck... (they only bolt to the block, not the head....)
Thanks for the very good fix for this DI!

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:14 am ]
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The '79+ bracket also spaces the alternator's bottom ears further away from the block, which facilitates the use of an '89+ Nippondenso, Bosch, or Chrysler 40/90 or 50/120 alternator, which is not only more efficient and powerful, but also considerably smaller and lighter if you choose the Nippondenso version.

Then there's the AREngineering solution.

Author:  Pierre [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:22 am ]
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FYI - several months, maybe a year ago I asked AndyF about the AREngineering kit and it had been discontinued.

Author:  DusterIdiot [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  If you have to go the other way...

I also notice on the early 60's trucks/vans(industrial/farming engines) they have the driver's side alternator mounting brackets, that also may be a quickie junkyard item, but you can't have power steering to use it effectively...

:wink:

-D.Idiot

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: If you have to go the other way...

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I also notice on the early 60's trucks/vans(industrial/farming engines) they have the driver's side alternator mounting brackets
Definitely on the A100/A108 vans with slant-6 engines. I think most (all?) of the D/W pickups had the distributor-side alternator setup like '61+ passenger cars. Not sure where the alternator is in a B-series van with slant-6, but I think it's on the distributor side.
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but you can't have power steering to use it effectively
There were a lot of special parts used to have P/S in a '60 Valiant. The alternator's "bottom" bracket was cast integrally with the special thermostat housing, a slider bracket came up from the P/S pump support, etc. I wonder what was done on A-vans with slant-6 and P/S. For that matter, I wonder if P/S was available on A-vans.

Author:  6shotvanner [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:31 pm ]
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FYI,no pwr steering on A vans/pkup according to my FSM.Also B vans indeed the alt sits on dist side.Happy parts hunting :wink:

Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:15 pm ]
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On my dart i kept the Cast iron alternator mount and I have both the block and head with .100" off of them. so I just shimmed it up with washers!

On a quasi related topic, SSDan, I have a small alternaor that I grabbed off a 90's Dodge truck - how do I ID it as to which one it is?? (Nippondenso, Bosch, or Chrysler 40/90 or 50/120) and how do I wire it to my volare -- I have the Sheet metal Bracket there!
I plan to install it to run the EFI I will be puttin on there this summer!

Thanks A link will work if you dont want to hijack this thread.

Greg

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