i have been looking at some water/methanol injection kits, i am going to try and run one of these systems instead of av gas. has anyone use one of these systems and have any advise?
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| Author: | terrylittlejohn [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:12 pm ] |
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i have been looking at some water/methanol injection kits, i am going to try and run one of these systems instead of av gas. has anyone use one of these systems and have any advise?
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| Author: | slantsixbob [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:35 pm ] |
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i don't know anything bout them, but do you have a test vehicle? like something you don't really care about to test it on. y'know in case something goes wrong  i think that might not be a bad idea if possible
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| Author: | terrylittlejohn [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:50 pm ] |
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no, i am to well known around here , and can`t just go up and down the road, to many residents, the police will be waiting at the door.i just have the strip 2.5 hrs away 
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| Author: | slantsixbob [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:57 pm ] |
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ah i understand good luck with it
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| Author: | Shaker223 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:56 pm ] |
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I use the devils own kit with my turbo setup. Inlet temps are 15* less than ambient when I checked it with a thermo-couple. I'm happy with this kit. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/water- ... e-1-8.html |
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| Author: | terrylittlejohn [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:08 pm ] |
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what fluid did you use , some sites say the washer fluid can be use if methanol can`t be found, is that right and does it have to be mixed or ran straight, also can methal highdrate be use also ? |
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| Author: | Shaker223 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:22 pm ] |
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I run 100% meth. but like you discovered the mixture can be 0% to 100%. Some guys on the Buick sites use denatured alcohol (home depot) as well. Pacemakr86 is pretty up on the stuff he has the same name on the Buick boards as well. He is the one who suggested to not even bother mixing it and just run it at 100%. It adds cooling proprties and octane as well. |
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| Author: | terrylittlejohn [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:01 pm ] |
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i haven`t looked around here yet to see what is available. i haven`t got a system yet either 
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| Author: | Shaker223 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:03 pm ] |
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If your track sells fuel they might carry it. |
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| Author: | terrylittlejohn [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:10 am ] |
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there was only one racer here running alcohol, and he use to bring it in by the barrel but he changed his comb/setup and had to go back to race fuel. a local speed shop will sell 5gal cans of race fuel but its $95+taxes, that over my budget and the av-gas i use to run is almost as exspensive,this i why i am thinking of water injection, one investment on the system and then i can work with pump gas, i hope. |
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| Author: | Rug_Trucker [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:25 am ] |
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I am jumping on the thread to see what people do. It has been around a long time. |
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| Author: | Matt Cramer [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:28 am ] |
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Quote: what fluid did you use , some sites say the washer fluid can be use if methanol can`t be found, is that right and does it have to be mixed or ran straight, also can methal highdrate be use also ?
Windshield washer fluid is about 95% water and 5% methanol, although the exact proportions depend on the temperature rating.
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| Author: | Rug_Trucker [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:46 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: what fluid did you use , some sites say the washer fluid can be use if methanol can`t be found, is that right and does it have to be mixed or ran straight, also can methal highdrate be use also ?
Windshield washer fluid is about 95% water and 5% methanol, although the exact proportions depend on the temperature rating.
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:53 am ] |
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I mix 50-50 windshield washer fluid, and denatured alchohol. I am far from an expert. I installed it to try and get out of detonation, but this project is still a work on progress. As I got things tuned up better, the boost built to where I am back into detonation in first and 2nd gears, but I can feel some real power potential now. I am going to install a bigger intercooler, which will cool things down more, and drop the boost levels some. Hopefully that will get things under control. I am using the Devil's own as well. I was told by our local speed shop that back-fires with pure meth can create an explosion in the manifold. I think this is what happened to Don Garlits in his famous fire/racing event. Sam |
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| Author: | Rug_Trucker [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:53 pm ] |
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Quote: I was told by our local speed shop that back-fires with pure meth can create an explosion in the manifold. I think this is what happened to Don Garlits in his famous fire/racing event.
Garlits had a backfire alright. It was Nitomethane. The injectors were on the top of the blower.Sam The turbo diesels I worked on in college had pop off's on the intake. The ALCO (American Locomotive Company) burped one time on a 110* day. That plate clanked when I was checking things and I ran out of that building nearly crapping my pants! The turbo on that engine weighed 600lbs. |
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