Slant Six Forum :: 170 vs 225 questions

I am able to purchase a 1975? dart swinger for $100 BUT it needs an alternator and carbeurator. In riverside (im in reno) I have a carb and an alternator, but they're for my 63 d100 225 /6. The carb is from a manual choke, but also has a hookup for auto choke. Would it be worth it to have these items shipped, IF they were to fit? According to autozone, they should (same part number for the alternator, and my carb is a 1 bbl holley)

any thoughts. No pics yet, my phone is kinda turned off

making my 2 field the spare, which I believe should work.

As for the carb, It was on the engine that i bought, which was a 72. I dont believe its set up for cable

what parts do I need? What would have been the original equipment for this car? Any suggestions on parts that WILL work, please let me know. This is a solid car, and can be a daily driver with the carb/ alternator. I don't want to pass up this opportunity because of a couple of missing parts. Its going to the crusher if I dont buy it

The original owner, whom i will be buying it said it is a 170. He swears up and down that it is a 170. Maybe it was swapped out, but the only clue as to anything he said, was that a shop did some engine work about 20 years ago, but he cant recall if the engine was rebuilt, or replaced. He said it looked the same as when he dropped it off, so he didnt question it, as long as it ran lol

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So, it sounds like he might not be the most reliable source of "sworn" information about the engine.

Author:	63d100sixer [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:17 pm ]
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I am able to purchase a 1975? dart swinger for $100 BUT it needs an alternator and carbeurator. In riverside (im in reno) I have a carb and an alternator, but they're for my 63 d100 225 /6. The carb is from a manual choke, but also has a hookup for auto choke. Would it be worth it to have these items shipped, IF they were to fit? According to autozone, they should (same part number for the alternator, and my carb is a 1 bbl holley) any thoughts. No pics yet, my phone is kinda turned off

Author:	Reed [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:35 pm ]
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Quote: I am able to purchase a 1975? dart swinger for $100 BUT it needs an alternator and carbeurator. In riverside (im in reno) I have a carb and an alternator, but they're for my 63 d100 225 /6. The carb is from a manual choke, but also has a hookup for auto choke. Would it be worth it to have these items shipped, IF they were to fit? According to autozone, they should (same part number for the alternator, and my carb is a 1 bbl holley) any thoughts. No pics yet, my phone is kinda turned off The alternator won't work. The 1973 engine should have a dual field alternator and charging system, and more likely than not your truck has a single field alternator. The carb should work though. Frankly,any slant six one barrel carb can be easily made to work and any dual field alternator off of ANY (six or eight cylinder) early 70s to late 80s Mopar car truck or van will bolt onto the Dart. It might be easier and cheaper o source the parts locally (i.e. junkyards).

Author:	Joshie225 [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:39 pm ]
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The carb for a '75 Swinger will not be the same as a '63 D100 even if both are Holley made, but if the D100 has a cable throttle linkage you should be able to get that carb on the car and make it work well enough to drive home. The alternators aren't the same and are not as easy to make work. The '63 uses an alternator with a single field connection to the regulator and the other side of the field is grounded at the brush holder. The '75 has both field connections isolated from the case and both connect to the regulator. Unless you are aware of how the two charging systems differ and can isolate (insulate from the alternator case) the grounded brush and add a terminal for the second field wire I suggest you get a later style alternator.

Author:	63d100sixer [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:54 pm ]
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I should have included more info i guess. I had converted my 63 to electronic ignition, and in doing so, I had converted it to a dual field. I converted back, for originality reasons, and replaced the 2 field i had with a single field, making my 2 field the spare, which I believe should work. As for the carb, It was on the engine that i bought, which was a 72. I dont believe its set up for cable, but I do have boxes of part carbs, that i should piece together to drive it home (next door lol) Expanding on my original question, If neither parts would work, what parts do I need? What would have been the original equipment for this car? Any suggestions on parts that WILL work, please let me know. This is a solid car, and can be a daily driver with the carb/ alternator. I don't want to pass up this opportunity because of a couple of missing parts. Its going to the crusher if I dont buy it

Author:	Reed [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:03 pm ]
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Quote: making my 2 field the spare, which I believe should work. You believe correctly. Quote: As for the carb, It was on the engine that i bought, which was a 72. I dont believe its set up for cable A 72 carb should be a cable operated carb. Quote: what parts do I need? What would have been the original equipment for this car? Any suggestions on parts that WILL work, please let me know. This is a solid car, and can be a daily driver with the carb/ alternator. I don't want to pass up this opportunity because of a couple of missing parts. Its going to the crusher if I dont buy it Sounds like you have the spare parts you need.

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Author:	SlantSixDan [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:04 pm ]
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The early slant-6 D-truck throttle linkage/lever setups are not at all like the passenger car arrangements, even in those same years. The '63 carb might be cobbled up enough to get the car home, but it's not a good long-term solution. Finding a good quality, more appropriate carburetor for a '75 will not be difficult, but stay away from parts store "remanufactured" junk. Any dual-field Mopar alternator (i.e., '70 or later) will work on the '75.

Author:	66aCUDA [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:23 am ]
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And you havent bought it yet???? Frank

Author:	63d100sixer [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:26 am ]
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well, its sat in his back yard for 12 years. Its not going anywhere soon, and its kinda only for sale to me, so I dont have to worry about it getting sold. Its not really my style. Its green, with a black usetobe leather top. I do dig the curved rear window on it..........I was thinking about having a friend of mine ship my parts I have in riverside, ca to me here in Reno, nevada, BUT it looks as if I am going to get assistance moving ALL of my crap up here to reno, in about a month or so. It can wait. The only thing Im worried about, is rust. There doesnt seem to be any cancer, except for the leather top. its bubbled a little bit. Is there any KNOWN areas of rust.Worst case scenario, is if its more solid then my d100, then ill pull the 72 225 i swapped into my truck, put it in the dart, and drive the dart, while I fix cancer on my truck and swap in my crate 440/904 Ive been puttin off doing

Author:	steponmebbbboom [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:11 pm ]
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if it has been sitting in a backyard for 12 years with dew forming on it every morning, anything below the rocker panels is likely to be punched. peel up the carpets, bring a screwdriver, start poking. i still say go for it if you can at least get the engine to run you can recuperate your costs right there. but if it has not moved for 12 years FAT chance of driving it anywhere. your brakes will be rusted solid and the tires will be ready to rip right open as soon as they start rolling. if youre just going down the street with it find a buddy with a pickup and drag it out with a chain.

Author:	63d100sixer [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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its only going next door. All the kids made christmas lists, so I decided to make one too lol. I only had 2 things on it 1) 1975 dodge dart swinger with 170 /6 2)170 /6. preferrably attatched to 1975 dodge dart swinger may dad said that we might be able to do it lol. We have to make room first, then we might get it. If we dont have the room, and cant make it, we will have to pass

Author:	SlantSixDan [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:33 pm ]
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Going to be a rough Christmas...the last year for the 170 in upper North America was 1969. The only 6-cylinder available in '75 was the 225.

Author:	63d100sixer [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:47 pm ]
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really? The original owner, whom i will be buying it said it is a 170. He swears up and down that it is a 170. Maybe it was swapped out, but the only clue as to anything he said, was that a shop did some engine work about 20 years ago, but he cant recall if the engine was rebuilt, or replaced. He said it looked the same as when he dropped it off, so he didnt question it, as long as it ran lol

Author:	SlantSixDan [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:17 pm ]
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Quote: really? Really. Quote: The original owner, whom i will be buying it said it is a 170. He swears up and down that it is a 170. Maybe it was swapped out, but the only clue as to anything he said, was that a shop did some engine work about 20 years ago, but he cant recall if the engine was rebuilt, or replaced. He said it looked the same as when he dropped it off, so he didnt question it, as long as it ran lol So, it sounds like he might not be the most reliable source of "sworn" information about the engine.

Author:	63d100sixer [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:42 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: really? Really. Quote: The original owner, whom i will be buying it said it is a 170. He swears up and down that it is a 170. Maybe it was swapped out, but the only clue as to anything he said, was that a shop did some engine work about 20 years ago, but he cant recall if the engine was rebuilt, or replaced. He said it looked the same as when he dropped it off, so he didnt question it, as long as it ran lol So, it sounds like he might not be the most reliable source of "sworn" information about the engine. O.K. so Ill agree that its a 225. thats even better then me having to swap in a 225 later lol

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Author:	SlantSixDan [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:19 pm ]
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Well, it's conceivable that somebody swapped in a '68-'69 170 at some point in the last ~34 years...but it's probably a 225.