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| Author: | dartfordoor [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:24 am ] |
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I have a 73 4 dr dart, and I hardly have any traction on snow and ice, here in winter chicago...I was wondering if a suv type tire would fit a passenger wheel..., not those massive tires, but something that fits under the bodywork using an all terran tire for traction....or should I just stick to four bridgestone Blizzarc winter tires. I have ballast in the trunk to aid traction, some what......thanks in advance.....Jerry 
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:21 am ] |
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Get real winter tires. AT tires are not snow tires as I can attest with my Dakota. Also, I wouldn't buy Goodyear Ice Grip tires again. No so good on ice and like a marshmallow in the dry. |
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| Author: | wjajr [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:40 am ] |
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Use a good passenger car snow & ice tire on all four corners. Going is good, stopping & steering is even better. Place the extra weight, 100 -150 lbs., over the right rear wheel & axel, not out by the bumper end of the trunk. If you have a standard transmission second gear starts on slippery ground helps with A bodies. In the seventies when I had my first Dart with a 273 V8, rather doughnut machine, I filled gallon milk jugs with dry sand, placed six of them in a wooden apple crate, with a few loose piled on top of the six, and placed that on the elevated section of trunk over the axel. The dry sand worked well for treating ice when needed. Oh, and a full sized long handle snow shovel on board won't hurt the cause either. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:42 am ] |
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Looking for an "SUV type" tire is not going to get you anywhere productive, even if you could find one to fit. What you need is good winter tires in an appropriate size. Blizzaks are good. If you need to do much of any winter driving, though, the best ones are Nokian Hakkapeliittas. Once you've had them, you'll never settle for anything else. Good tires are a good place to spend good money. In fact, I'm glad you've made this post, it reminds me to pick up the phone and get a set of these ordered for my '71. Looks like the P175/80R14 will be just about perfect with my 4½" rims. |
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| Author: | wjajr [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:26 pm ] |
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Dan is correct, Nokian winter tires are damn good for all winter road conditions. |
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| Author: | FrankRaso [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:02 pm ] |
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I'm sure the Nokian tires are as good as Dan suggests but I've been impressed with how much better even the cheapest set of snow tires work compared to summer tires. If you get a set of non-directional tires (2 or 4), you might get a little bit better life from your tires with their cross-over style of rotation. Four winter tires are better than just two on the drive wheels. See Winter Driving Tips (winter tires are on page 2) |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:41 pm ] |
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That's a really good article there, FR. I would add a couple of sentences to the lighting section, because even when you (or a radio announcer) tells people to "turn on their full lighting system", they often get it wrong — driving around with only daytime running lights, or DRLs plus taillamps. PM me if you'd like the two or three sentences I've found get the educational message across most clearly to people who generally don't know or care the difference between parking lights, daytime running lights, low beams, and high beams. Also, one technique that has saved me and my car countless times over the years: when driving on slippery roads, shift to Neutral (automatic) or kick the clutch to the floor (stick shift) before touching the brakes. This removes drive torque from the rear wheels, so all four wheels are under much closer to the same torque equilibrium, greatly reducing the likelihood that the drive (rear) wheels will go sideways. |
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| Author: | FrankRaso [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:18 pm ] |
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Thanks Dan. I have to admit that I had some help (a lot) from the MTO. It tough to fund our small Niagara car club so I've been adding content to our web site so as to ultimately get some Google advertising revenue. I was planning to add a section about lighting and any help you would offer would be greatly appreciated. I thought the information you provided us earlier about fog lights was great but I hadn't done enough research to include anything meaningful. |
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| Author: | dartfordoor [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:08 pm ] |
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Frank,SSDan, WJAJR and jopshie225; thanks for the advice, will go hunting for car snow tires this weekend.. Jerry |
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| Author: | sandy in BC [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:36 pm ] |
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We only use Nokian Hakkapeliittas. Any thing else is 2 nd rate. They are spectacular on the wifes AWD Turbo Talon. I have a set of 205/70/14 on BBP rims for the Valaint |
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| Author: | hydrive1953 [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:24 am ] |
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Jerry, try Blains Farm & Fleet in Woodstock,IL. and look at the Cooper tires. I to have a 1975 Dodge 4dr and just this last weekend I priced out all 4, for around $300.00, I travel from Galena,IL to Downers Grove,IL twice a week so I am going with this tire. I have a 1992 Dodge turbo truck and found that the Coopers where the best on the truck in ALL kinds of weather and lasted the longest (I would get them baled and they still worked without blow out's) I put over 298.000 mile on the truck with this tire brand on it. My wife now only gets the Cooper brand on her cars. You can go on line and look up Farm & Fleet, and look at the tires on line. hope this info helps out. Look for the turing all season kind. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:04 am ] |
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No. Marketing names aside, there is nothing such as an "all season" tire unless you live someplace like Southern California or Arizona where it scarcely ever approaches freezing. You need to get winter-specific tires — the best ones you can afford. |
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| Author: | wjajr [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:54 am ] |
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Quote: Marketing names aside, there is nothing such as an "all season" tire unless you live someplace like Southern California or Arizona where it scarcely ever approaches freezing. You need to get winter-specific tires
In this neck of the woods we call them 3 season tires, problem being, in Maine we have 5 seasons. That makes it 2 seasons short of a full year...
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:41 am ] |
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Quote: In this neck of the woods we call them 3 season tires
That's much more accurate.Quote: problem being, in Maine we have 5 seasons. That makes it 2 seasons short of a full year...
Well, they make "all season" tires, and they make "winter season" tires, and they make "summer season" tires, but I don't know of anyone making "road construction season" tires. 
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| Author: | rebel_cat68 [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:48 am ] |
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I didn't even know that the Finnish Nokian wintertires are been sold over there. Thanks for endorcing them. Are you allowed to use studs on your wintertires in America and Canada? |
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