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Author:  bob fisher [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:48 am ]
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hi sages- a recent discussion of reman or rebuilt parts with sl6 dan and other mentors caused me to be much more careful in considering what to buy. will be doing a waterpump replacement(leaking) this week on my 80 volare. has the original blue paint so i think it is the original (only 69k miles). due to a recent bad experience with brake pads plus the bad press on this forum, i have eschewed chinese parts. actually foreign made parts are very common. one has to inquire about american made parts and they are not always easily available. ok now to the chase with one question - has there been the same general bad experience with parts from mexico. i notice lots of remans from there. other countries of origin include indonesia, malaya, taiwan, vietnam, even england. curious too about how you can have a truly new waterpump for a sl6. wasnt the last new sl6 engine 87. wouldnt think chrysler or others would still be making new water pumps. would appreciate being cleared up on this and whether parts from mexico are better. thanks tons bob f
Author:  volaredon [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:48 am ]
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actually they made /6s til 91 for Mexico and industrial apps; they don't make a Ford 300 straight 6, or an LA series 318 either any more, but those were the last 2 waterpumps I've had to buy; and the counterman offered me "New or Reman" options on both of them not too long ago;
NO, Chrysler probably won't have any NOS ones around yet but try the local parts places and ask if they offer the option; everyone knows, that even though it was almost 20 years ago the /6 was made, when they WERE made they made millions of them; they were a very popular engine in their day so it's worth a few phone calls to see.
Author:  KBB_of_TMC [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:42 am ]
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I'm very interested in any survey of the quality of rebuilt parts; it seems that every time I need something, it comes from a different random point on earth. The Auto Zone "Factory Air" line parts that I've twice tried didn't fit w/o a lot of kludging, so I avoid that brand. I also recommend inspecting every part before you buy - do not believe the box when it says "Made in USA". Opening both NAPA and Pep Boys boxes that said that on the outside provided parts made elsewhere and labeled as such on the inside.
Author:  Reed [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:59 am ]
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I think we are reaching the point that most companies aren't going to be offering top quality repair parts for our motors/cars, unless you have a muscle car like a barracuda or a duster. Let's face it, slant sixes, while millions were produced, don't have the market share of a small block Chevy, and the number of these vehicles on the road gets smaller every year. There just isn't the demand anymore to keep putting the money into the manufacture of these parts. So we are stuck with cut-rate junk from cut-rate companies. Far better to learn how to refurbish and maintain original parts or adapt parts from newer vehicles/other applications.
Author:  6shotvanner [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:09 am ]
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GMB waterpumps,made in Japan,new.I've had really good luck with them starting years ago when I was playing with import cars n trucks.The last 2 I've purchased for slants still are stamped(molded)made in Japan but who knows anymore,seem to be fine though.
Author:  THOR [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:17 pm ]
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I have had luck finding new parts for my Sl6s. I order them through Fast Undercar in Portland, OR. The waterpumps for example are labeled the "prestone" brand, but so far I haven't had a problem with them.

Might take a look on Rockauto.com and see what they offer. Looking at it right now, it seems that they have a few options for new ones. The A-1 Cardone which is labeled as a rebuilt is one that alot of the chain stores around me carry, and they absolutely suck.

They even list one from Bosch, which seems a bit wierd...

~THOR~
Author:  Jopapa [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:36 pm ]
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GMB waterpumps,made in Japan,new.I've had really good luck with them starting years ago when I was playing with import cars n trucks.The last 2 I've purchased for slants still are stamped(molded)made in Japan but who knows anymore,seem to be fine though.
That's what on my Duster's slant right now. Looked like a pretty good quality unit, hasn't leaked yet and the gaskets that came with it weren't paper thin either.

We'll see if it's started leaking at all after I get home (and the car's been sitting for 8 months at that point).
Author:  00spy [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:38 am ]
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Years ago I bought a water pump from advance for a caprice ,because it was a little cheaper , put it on and it run great until it warmed up.I was driving down the highway and the car started bucking. Stopped a bit went home,I then took off the water pump ,trying to figure out what I did wrong, finally took a gallon of water ,and poured it through both sides, low and behold, one side of the water passages was not machined all of the way through :shock:


Dave
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:52 am ]
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Beware of "assembled in USA". That is not the same as "made in USA".
Author:  440_Magnum [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: further analysis of reman parts
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ok now to the chase with one question - has there been the same general bad experience with parts from mexico. i notice lots of remans from there. other countries of origin include indonesia, malaya, taiwan, vietnam, even england.

I've had generally good luck with parts from Mexico. My pecking-order of preference for where my parts come from goes something like:

1) US
2) Canada, Mexico, Japan, and Europe
3) Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia
4) the rest of the Far East
5) Space aliens
6) Unearthed from a landfill
7) China
Author:  volaredon [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: further analysis of reman parts
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ok now to the chase with one question - has there been the same general bad experience with parts from mexico. i notice lots of remans from there. other countries of origin include indonesia, malaya, taiwan, vietnam, even england.

I've had generally good luck with parts from Mexico. My pecking-order of preference for where my parts come from goes something like:

1) US
2) Canada, Mexico, Japan, and Europe
3) Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia
4) the rest of the Far East
5) Space aliens
6) Unearthed from a landfill
7) China
Just curious (I'd like input from more people BTW) where does Aussie fit in --- no products in particular------ but more in general; (we all know how good, about anything that comes from China, is---- NOT!)
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: further analysis of reman parts
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1) US
2) Canada, Mexico, Japan, and Europe
3) Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia
4) the rest of the Far East
5) Space aliens
6) Unearthed from a landfill
7) China
I quibble and differ a little with your list; I think you put US alone in the top slot because that's what your particular brand of patriotism drives you to do, not based on any objective engineering/quality factors, and I think your 2nd group is too congested. By all means, prove me wrong: What objective difference do you find, overall and in general, between parts from the USA and parts from Canada? Didn't think so! :lol:

Here's my list. Countries under any given number are considered equivalent.

1. USA, Canada, Australia, Western Europe, Japan.
2. Mexico, Eastern Europe, Argentina, Brazil
3. Korea (real hard to choose not quite to put this as a #2 yet)
4. Taiwan
5. The rest of Asia except for China
6. Space aliens
7. Landfill
12. China
Author:  Reed [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: further analysis of reman parts
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Here's my list. Countries under any given number are considered equivalent.

1. USA, Canada, Australia, Western Europe, Japan.
2. Mexico, Eastern Europe, Argentina, Brazil
3. Korea (real hard to choose not quite to put this as a #2 yet)
4. Taiwan
5. The rest of Asia except for China
6. Space aliens
7. Landfill
12. China
Uh, what about 8-11?

Are they

8. Wonka brand
9. Ferengi
10. Dr. Emmet Brown, Inc.
11. Hasbro, Tonka, Mattel
?
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:34 pm ]
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Yeah, pretty much!

I left out India. It's on the same line with China.
Author:  Reed [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:35 pm ]
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What, no Tatas in your future? :wink:
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