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Author:  theslantingsix [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  hemi orange monster needs a carb!
ok i got the block back to day so i went ahead and painted it and i got the Erson 270 cam in my rebuild kit so i'm a happy man right now

Everybody has been so nice to me by donating parts for the car. my buddy gave me an old Holley from the sixtys but i don't know what it is can yall help me http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/uu20 ... g&newest=1
Author:  Rug_Trucker [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:50 pm ]
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Get the list number off the choke horn. Then we can I.D. it. Looks like electric choke.
Author:  ceej [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:51 pm ]
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Not enough info. Clean it up and get the list number off of it.

To hazard a guess, it's a 4160, probably in the 390 cfm range. The venturies look tiny.

It looks like there might be some pieces missing. It's really filthy. Make sure all the air bleeds get cleaned out. That looks like an old Ford carb, which may not be the best starting point. It will need to get an anti-blow out conversion, and the air bleeds may be difficult to deal with.

Without the list number, it will be impossible to tell you how well it will work.
Never know though! :D

CJ
Author:  Joshie225 [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:22 pm ]
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Yeesh. Looks like your buddy set you up with his ugly sister. Uh, thanks, but...
Author:  wicked/six [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:40 pm ]
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Looks like the carb has been under water :shock:

TF
Author:  68barracuda [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:59 am ]
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4150 - note secondary metering block - the choke could be either or - buy the electric kit - uses same mechanical different cover - from the vacuum port under the secondary diaphragm I would say 450 if it has a vac port under the primary bowl as well - could be 390 - please post the numbers stamped on the tower part - on the primary bowl side - then we can id it - you can update it with newer float bowls etc no problem vso you can set float levels externally
Author:  wjajr [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:15 am ]
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Look here for ID numbers.

In this example one would look up 0-8007 for parts, this carburetor is also known as #4160, 390 cfm with vacuum secondary's when looking in all the parts catalogs. The 8007 number describes when the carburetor was built. Over the years Holley up dated these many times, and provides parts to bring an old unit up to date.

You need an electric choke, accelerator pump arm, rebuild kit, Chrysler linkage adapter, anti-blow out conversion kit, and perhaps a secondary linkage rod. All that stuff can be located and part numbers foundhere once you ID the carburetor. Then look in Jags, Summit, or your favorite Holly dealer to purchase the needed items.
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:22 am ]
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That carb...may not come back...it's seen better days...

Looking at the linkage and the configuration of the bowls, she looks like she's a Model 4150 from a Ford V-8...circa 1963-1965-ish...probably 450 cfm for use on say the 352... I have it's father from 1960 and it's 'similar' but it has other differences... looks like if the choke even works and isn't frozen, you'll need to get the choke cover and element.... you'll be working on that carb for weeks cleaning it up to hope it still works.

-D.Idiot
Author:  stonethk [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:39 am ]
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Heres a little equation that has multiple uses:

Hours trying to fix carb + hoping it will work = may or may not work

vs.

Potential hours working on carb / hourly wage + buying a new carb = new working carb (with possible benefit of non-headache)
Author:  slantvaliant [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:48 am ]
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Potential hours working on carb / hourly wage
Two things:

1. If you actually try to put numbers to it, remember that your time is only worth what someone is actually willing to pay for that particular block of time. I'm sure a lot of us have several hundred hours in a particular car that wouldn't bring much, even at Bare-it, Jack 'Em style auctions. If you don't get at least a little kick out of fixing things, figuring them out, or just learning, buy a newer car.
Part of the equation does need to be the probability of success, and how much time you are willing to gamble/donate. Judging that probability and time, unfortunately, comes from having tried and failed a few times.

2. New parts, especially carburetors, do not guarantee a lack of headaches.
Author:  stonethk [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:56 am ]
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Slantvaliant, true what you say and I agree.

Tis' merely a suggestion though.

Remember- you can't make a diamond out of a pigs ass...or something like that. :D
Author:  Wizard [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:19 am ]
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This looks exactly like it was sitting on a dry shelf (attic or storage room) for 20 years. The areas where dust was rubbed off, is SHINY and in GOOD condition.

Could be lucky find. Give it GOOD wash with soap after taking apart and reassess the missing parts needs.

Cheers, Wizard
Author:  SLANT RODDER [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  hemi orange monster needs a new carb!
Get the numbers off of the choke tower and any of us with a book can give you the exact specs and application data. I'm with Wizard on this one. Give it a good cleaning and take a better look. Another thing to keep in mind is this: Don't ever toss these things! If anything, after it's identified, if it's not to your liking, give it to someone else. We are losing way too many assets these days. Recycle it into somebody elses' garage! LOL
Author:  theslantingsix [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:26 pm ]
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ok so i looked on the choke tower and i found "list-1273-1"
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:39 am Post subject:

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Heres a little equation that has multiple uses:

Hours trying to fix carb + hoping it will work = may or may not work

vs.

Potential hours working on carb / hourly wage + buying a new carb = new working carb (with possible benefit of non-headache)
i think it would be more reasonable to attempt to rebuild this carb it just needs cleaning up and a few modifcations it would be cheaper than to drop 370 som dollers in a new 390. i got a local boy who is a wizard with these old carbs and could get it right.

one question why are the jets on the primary side(side with choke) ,size 55, have bigger jets than the secondarys, size 48?
Author:  ceej [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:49 pm ]
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That's an old Y-Block carb. Get it all cleaned up. Start out with something like 54 primary and 60 secondary jets. Open up the secondary vacuum can and see what spring is in it. Do your self a favor and get three things up front: A quick change secondary spring kit, a power valve blow-out protection kit, and the mopar throttle lever kit.

Get it spotless clean before spending money on it. look for any damage first, then if it passes muster, get the parts to start using it! :D

It sounds like they had it backward for a chevy six with those jets.

CJ
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