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 Post subject: Cam Won't go in?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 5:41 pm 
I went to install the cam in my son's engine today. When we worked the cam into place it got tight just as it was beginning to go into the last bearing. I pulled the cam out and tried to start it in backwards and it is definitely the front bearing that it is tight on. It will only slide in about an 1/8" and then it gets tight. I Tried another new cam that I have and it is the same way.

This is a new rebuild, new cam bearings, ...etc. Engine builder is top notch from everything I've heard about him. But something is definitely not right. Your ideas and info is greatly appreciated.I'm sure someone on the board knows what's up. I'd like to know before I take it back to the machine shop next week.

Thanks

Rick



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 Post subject: Re: Cam Won't go in?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:08 pm 
Quote:
: I went to install the cam in my son's engine
: today. When we worked the cam into place it
: got tight just as it was beginning to go
: into the last bearing. I pulled the cam out
: and tried to start it in backwards and it is
: definitely the front bearing that it is
: tight on. It will only slide in about an
: 1/8" and then it gets tight. I Tried
: another new cam that I have and it is the
: same way.
:
: This is a new rebuild, new cam bearings,
: ...etc. Engine builder is top notch from
: everything I've heard about him. But
: something is definitely not right. Your
: ideas and info is greatly appreciated.I'm
: sure someone on the board knows what's up.
: I'd like to know before I take it back to
: the machine shop next week.
:
: Thanks
: Rick


Unless there is something between the bearing bore in the block and the outer surface of the cam bearing shell, or you have an undersized(ID) bearing, or you have a burr on the bearing, or you have run into the scenario Doc and I alluded to in the thread about 'planning the rebuild' a couple of weeks ago.(see scraping cam bearings)
Just for grins check the cam for runout by putting it between centers on a lathe or in v-blocks and checking the middle journals with dial indicator.
Look on the bright side, if you have to scrape any cam bearings the front one is definitely the easiest one to do.
Depending, of course, on what you turn up, I am not sure your machinist is to blame, nor could he be expected to find this.

fglmopar@aol.com


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 Post subject: Re: Cam Won't go in?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 3:47 pm 
Quote:
: Unless there is something between the bearing
: bore in the block and the outer surface of
: the cam bearing shell, or you have an
: undersized(ID) bearing, or you have a burr
: on the bearing, or you have run into the
: scenario Doc and I alluded to in the thread
: about 'planning the rebuild' a couple of
: weeks ago.(see scraping cam bearings)
: Just for grins check the cam for runout by
: putting it between centers on a lathe or in
: v-blocks and checking the middle journals
: with dial indicator.
: Look on the bright side, if you have to scrape
: any cam bearings the front one is definitely
: the easiest one to do.
: Depending, of course, on what you turn up, I am
: not sure your machinist is to blame, nor
: could he be expected to find this.


I *always* give the machine shop a cam to fit to the cam bearings, that way there are no "dumb looks" or "was I suppost to make sure the cam spins freely in those new bearings I installed" kind of responces.

It is pretty common to have to do some level of "tweeking" to get new cam bearings to work well. Take the engine back to the shop and have them fix the cam bearing fit.
DD


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