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| Author: | Dale [ Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Converting a '64 833 to OD |
My 64 Valiant is a factory four speed car. I have an OD trans and bellhousing from an a or f body. How hard is it to install in my Valiant? What is the best way to approach the ball/trunion vs. cross and roller u-joint issue? I do have a couple extra b/t driveshafts -- should I modify one for the more modern trans? Are there any other snags? dbuser@northernenvironmental.com |
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| Author: | richard [ Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Converting a '64 833 to OD |
well, I did something similar to my 63 and I think Doug was/is/did work on an archive for that. THere were lots of posts about differnt year and body type 833 overdrives. as I recall it comes down to this: There were no ball and trunion overdrives for the a body. But my memory is very fuzzy as it ended with doug and I doing a buildup during my summer semester of differential equations which made me go mad (and we wre drinking beer) but the tranny went in great, it's slip yoke, and I love it. I seem to remember there being an easier solution to it all but we used all aluminum casings and maybe there was no way to have b/t with that..... search the archivces, and you will find a great deal on it including several debates... a shout out to Doug from the Misserable UK, and power stearing at xmas when I get back Quote:
: : My 64 Valiant is a factory four speed car. I : have an OD trans and bellhousing from an a : or f body. How hard is it to install in my : Valiant? What is the best way to approach : the ball/trunion vs. cross and roller : u-joint issue? I do have a couple extra b/t : driveshafts -- should I modify one for the : more modern trans? Are there any other : snags? Richard-cl@e-d-a.com |
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| Author: | bud L. [ Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Converting a '64 833 to OD |
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: My 64 Valiant is a factory four speed car. I : have an OD trans and bellhousing from an a : or f body. How hard is it to install in my : Valiant? What is the best way to approach : the ball/trunion vs. cross and roller : u-joint issue? I do have a couple extra b/t : driveshafts -- should I modify one for the : more modern trans? Are there any other : snags? If you go with the later b/hsg you'll have to make an adapter for the engine side of the z-bar pivot ball. Or I have heard some people have gone with an hydraulic slave cylinder or hydraulic T/out bearing to work the clutch. You can use your '64 cast iron b/hsg and avoid all that, but you'll have to use a different frt brg retainer . I machined my pilot hole in the b/hsg bigger and went with a turned down frt brg ret'r. Don't remember the exact sizes, I've slept since then. Lose the B & T driveshaft. Either make up a brand new one for the slip spline output shaft, or shorten the old one and install new frt weld yoke. fglmopar@aol.com |
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| Author: | Doc. [ Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Converting a '64 833 to OD |
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: My 64 Valiant is a factory four speed car. I : have an OD trans and bellhousing from an a : or f body. How hard is it to install in my : Valiant? What is the best way to approach : the ball/trunion vs. cross and roller : u-joint issue? I do have a couple extra b/t : driveshafts -- should I modify one for the : more modern trans? Are there any other : snags? You can get the needed flange and slider that bolts to the B&T and then have the driveshaft modified but all this is expensive. (around $200.00 in my area) The other option is to get a "later" driveshaft that fits your OD trans. and have that shortened to fit. This is a pretty easy swap, the other parts to look for is a 66 speedo cable assembly and you may have to modify the bellhousing bracket for the "z" shaft (bell crank) to line-up correctly on the newer bellhousing. (or bore open your cast iron bellhousing as Bud did) DD |
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