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| Author: | Brussell [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Intercooler for non-forced induction. |
I'm think that this probably isn't a very good idea, but where I come from we can't have Turbo's or Superchargers (for my age). And I was thinking well I can improve the air intake by installing an Air bos with a larger intake filter etc then I thought; why not have a bigger inlet (fairly big) that goes through an intercooler(Either air to air or air to water intercooler), I am wondering if this is even possible and wether I would be able to notice a difference from using this setup. i'd be happy to get something around a 10HP gain as it's more of a because I can kind of thing. I'm not sure if this would work but just asking. I have a VC valiant, intercooler should fit on the front just behind the grill. the intake inlet will be pretty big maybe 30cm x 10cm, piping wouldn't be a problem What do you genuises think? |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:01 am ] |
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With an air-to-air intercooler the air wouldn't be any cooler (and possibly warmer) than you could get with a cold air intake. An air-to-water might get you a little if you used an ice-water mix............. But the restriction of going thru the intercooler would mean less air and less power unless you had some significant ram-air. So the only way I could think of more power is with ram-air, air-to-icewater cooler and going 150mph............... |
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| Author: | Brussell [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:18 am ] |
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Thanks emsvitil I was thinking there would be some reason why it was bad, I didn't think air - air would make it warmer perhaps at idle maybe, but I could only really see that from piping in the engine bay which it would heat up regardless. (I was going to thermo wrap it. Air to water I was going to use a refridgerant mix, and the inter cooler I was looking at is a pump setup. While I'm sure the extra weight of all this will nearly cancel out all gains (Still only a couple of KG's) just thought it may be interesting. I was thinking a serious sized ram intake perhaps one that goes more directly to the intercooler. Hoping for someone else to have suggestions? |
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| Author: | Matt Cramer [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:55 am ] |
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A well set up scoop or cold air intake should get pretty close to ambient air temperatures. Intercooling could only get it colder than ambient if provided with something colder (expanding carbon dioxide, ice water, etc). It would only be a very short boost, add significant weight, and provide minimal gain. |
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| Author: | Ron Parker [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:26 pm ] |
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Brussell listen to this guy Matt he is so right . Thanks Ron We Did The Mash We Did The Monster Mash |
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| Author: | slantfin [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:49 am ] |
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The general consensus around here seems to be that the best performance-enhancing value/$ are: increase compression by planing material off the cylinder head; change to electronic ignition; increase intake/exhaust flow. Maybe not in that order. |
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| Author: | rlklaus [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:03 pm ] |
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Given that an intercoolers purpose is to removed the heat that is generated by a turbo or supercharger. I doubt that an intercooler would have any effect on a normally asperated engine. Air in the intake and the cooling air would be nearly the same temp. Add to that the possibility that there might be some extra drag on the air flowing through an intercooler, you might actually see a drop in power. |
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