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Author:  ESP47 [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Towing questions
Hey guys, I've never towed anything before but I've been looking into buying a cheap parts car for some parts I need. I have a 78 D100 with a 2bbl slant and 3 on the tree. The trailer ball is on the bumper. I'd like to use one of these if possible.

http://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/Equip ... x?model=TD

But if I had to I'd like to be capable of using a full trailer so the rear wheels aren't rolling. I'm guessing that I definitely wont be able to use the hitch on the bumper right? If I relocate it will the truck be enough to use both trailers or just the first one?

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Author:  Doc [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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Call your local U-haul or stop by one of their locations and ask...
Around here, they have really tightened-up on what they will allow you to tow with and there seems to be some inconsistancy, location to location.
DD
Author:  sandy in BC [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:31 pm ]
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Its cheaper to just get your parts car towed .

The bumper hitch is good for about a 2000lb trailer....

Any vehicle towed on a dolly needs plates in many jusrisdictions.

I wont tow a car without a trailer that has trailer brakes......around here any trailer over 3500lbs has to have brakes.

The cost of the brake controller and wiring would get your parts car professionally delivered.....
Author:  slantzilla [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:28 pm ]
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Quote:
Its cheaper to just get your parts car towed .

The bumper hitch is good for about a 2000lb trailer....

Any vehicle towed on a dolly needs plates in many jusrisdictions.

I wont tow a car without a trailer that has trailer brakes......around here any trailer over 3500lbs has to have brakes.

The cost of the brake controller and wiring would get your parts car professionally delivered.....
X100

Class III hitch and brake controller will set you back $300 easy.

I won't pull a trailer w/o brakes either. It's just too risky in this sue happy society.
Author:  ESP47 [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:37 am ]
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Thanks for the tips guys. I understand what you're saying but it sounds like I might end up gathering the parts I need. One longer haul tow will cost about the same as just getting the parts and doing it myself. If I ever want to do it again (which I'm sure I will) then I'm losing money by not getting the towing equipment.
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 am ]
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California tow dolly requires towed car to be registered. Fine was $167.00 10 years ago. Ask me how I know. ( I want your truck ! )
Author:  WhaleMstr [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:38 am ]
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isn't a trip permit
still less than 20 bucks??

used to get them all the time

good for one trip
one way

???
dan
Author:  ESP47 [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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Would it fall under the same rules as if you were driving the car home? I think you have something like 5 days to drive the new car you purchased without it being registered or insured.
Author:  emsvitil [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:40 pm ]
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Quote:
isn't a trip permit
still less than 20 bucks??

used to get them all the time

good for one trip
one way

???
dan

still have them. look free:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vehindustry/vin_m ... 0vin26.pdf


I've gotten them at the Auto Club (AAA)
Author:  Doc [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:46 pm ]
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The CA DMV has gotten pretty sneeky... because we all know that nothing is "free". :wink: :roll: :shock:

Getting one of these can put an otherwise "unknown" vehicle back on the DMV's radar... and that is good for all kinds of fun mail in your mailbox.
On the other hand, if the vehicle already has PNO status, it's already on the DMV's system so no big deal if they know you are moving the thing around.
DD
Author:  ESP47 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:17 pm ]
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Did some reading on UHauls site and found some info on other forums.

"UHAUL trailers have surge brakes activated by changes in inertia and the resulting change in the angle and pressure of the trailer tongue in relation to the hitch. At least that's the way I understand the system. The surge brake systems are self contained and are not controlled from the truck, meaning you can get by with a simple 4-pin flat wiring harness and no electronic brake controller if that is the setup that you currrently have."

They basically say to check the surge brake system and make sure its not rusty or low on fluid. Apparently they are notorious for not being kept up very well.
Author:  wjajr [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:52 am ]
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[quote]They basically say to check the surge brake system and make sure its not rusty or low on fluid. Apparently they are notorious for not being kept up very well.[/quote]

This is true for all of U-Haul’s rental equipment powered or towed.

However, U-Haul is good at installing hitches & pigtails.

If you rent a car hauling trailer from U-Haul, they will ask questions about the tow vehicle and car being carried on the trailer, and check their data base to see if your truck is capable per factory specs to tow that combination. If it isn’t capable, they won’t rent the trailer.

Before you install a tow package, ask U-Haul if your truck will qualify to pull an “Aâ€￾ body on one of their car carriers.

U-Haul surge brakes work OK if operating properly to begin with. One draw back to their surge brake system is it can be damn near imposable to back a loaded trailer up a steep hill with that brake. I never was told how to disable the damn thing, and didn’t see a way to disarm that brake.

My last house had 30 feet of 12% grade in the driveway, and in four wheel drive low range one could skid a trailer up that hill in a few try’s providing there was no ice on the ground…
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:24 pm ]
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Ya , Guys around here have boat trailers with surge brakes. It's 5 miles down hill to the lake. Most only have 1 axle brakes and they are smokin' hot and when they hit the water.........ssssssssssssssssss.
Author:  zorg [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:23 pm ]
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I don't remember about u-haul as they've never had the right trailer, but I know the other local places I've rented trailers from, won't let you tow with a half ton truck. Surge brakes work okay, but electric brakes are much nicer.
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