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| Author: | eugene [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | engine swap query |
As the economy continues to make life harder on my wife and I and I am beginning to consider the prospect of selling my car at some point, preferably when the market gets better. It is a 1966 Barracuda. I am not sure of this, but I did want to ask some engine questions, as I am assuming that I would get more money for my car if it had a transplant v-8 in it rather than the original 225. (Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I see in the marketplace). My questions to anyone knowledgeable about slant-6 to v-8 engine swaps are: 1. Am I correct in assuming that the trans on my 225 slant 6 would NOT be a simple bolt on procedure for ANY v-8 and that even if I picked up a 273 I would have to have a new or modified transmission? 2. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the EASIEST to swap in? 3. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the MOST DIFFICULT to swap in? 4. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the most valued and desirable engine to a potential buyer? Curiously Yours, Eugene |
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| Author: | GunPilot [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:17 am ] |
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Eugene, my .02, I think that you will be pressed to break even money-wise on a well-executed V8 swap when all is said and done. You'll spend a lot of money on the little things. You'll need a trans, or trans adapter. My opinion is the 340 is the most desirable engine for a swap for it's relative rarity and performance. The 273 is best if you are trying to clone a factory car. The 360 has the most potential for cubic inches/dollar. I think any V8 swap is about equivalent in effort spent. If you had a 273 donor car, that would be the easiest route. Others will chime in with better information, but that's my cut. |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Yep.. |
I agree with Gunpilot. I've seen a few of these get converted and are for sale online...currently none have sold because the price after the swap was so high it wasn't worth the money (Last one I saw was a 360 powered 1966, the guy would not budge on $10,500...it was for sale for 6 months before the ad disappeared). Better to go with a numbers matching original car, than to do the swap, be out the extra money, and have it still in your driveway 6 months later... The expensive parts in the conversion will be: new transmission, better rear end, conversion mounts (or swap K-member and get the suspension realigned, and new motor mounts). -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | DadTruck [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:54 am ] |
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I would leave it as a slant, lots of v-8 cars already out there for sale, with today's gas prices the 6 offers mileage one can live with and the potential for performance. |
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| Author: | 64 Convert [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:33 am ] |
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I agree with everyone who suggests leaving it stock. You might find a 318 free for the taking, but the other stuff will cost a fortune. Sell it as is, and buy a V8 if that's something you want in the future. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: engine swap query |
Quote: I am assuming that I would get more money for my car if it had a transplant v-8 in it rather than the original 225
Very doubtful -- you'd be swapping in a non-original engine, and in order to do a high enough quality conversion that the non-originality would move down the list of pricing factors, you'd need to change a LOT of parts (upgrade the brakes, upgrade the suspension, upgrade the cooling system, etc.). I can't see any way for you to get more money out of this than you'd put into it.Quote: 1. Am I correct in assuming that the trans on my 225 slant 6 would NOT be a simple bolt on procedure for ANY v-8 and that even if I picked up a 273 I would have to have a new or modified transmission?
Yes. There is no modification possible, you'd need a V8 transmission.Quote: 2. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the EASIEST to swap in?
No. You need different mounts according to the engine you pick.3. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the MOST DIFFICULT to swap in? Quote: 4. Of the 273, 318, 340, and 360, is there a v-8 that is far and away the most valued and desirable engine to a potential buyer?
The original engine is the most valued and desirable engine to a potential buyer. You are setting yourself up to lose money with this engine swap idea, and I have a feeling you are in for an unpleasant disappointment at the actual selling value of your car. See here.
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| Author: | eugene [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | regarding the current engine... |
The reason I was asking is that I have come across some very cheap deals on small block Mopar engines lately. It does not sound like that is a terribly desirable idea from the feedback I am getting, but let me issue a follow up: If remaining with the stock 225 is a better idea, would I be similarly destroying value if the 225 were rebuilt to get higher compression and higher performance? |
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| Author: | USAJon [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:12 am ] |
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Quote: Eugene, my .02,
the markets not getting any better anytime soonI think that you will be pressed to break even money-wise on a well-executed V8 swap when all is said and done. You'll spend a lot of money on the little things. You'll need a trans, or trans adapter. My opinion is the 340 is the most desirable engine for a swap for it's relative rarity and performance. The 273 is best if you are trying to clone a factory car. The 360 has the most potential for cubic inches/dollar. I think any V8 swap is about equivalent in effort spent. If you had a 273 donor car, that would be the easiest route. Others will chime in with better information, but that's my cut. keep your car enjoy it running 440 w/auto trans regularly on eBay $500 now that would be a swap. |
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