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| Author: | oldiron36 [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 63 Dart AC Photos needed |
I am going to add AC to my very early 64 Dart. Since the 63 has the heater pod under the dash, I will have to mount the evaporator on the tranny tunnel. Does anyone have photos of original mounting brackets for the evaporator? Also, any photos of the under hood hose routing would be grand. I grabbed an under hood system from a 64 Valiant in the scrap yard, but I believe the routing is different from the 63. |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
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see this, then send me a PM, and I will give you my phone number, and some options. http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic ... ht=#221823 |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 63 Dart AC Photos needed |
Quote: I am going to add AC to my very early 64 Dart. Since the 63 has the heater pod under the dash, I will have to mount the evaporator on the tranny tunnel.
Wait, hold it. Is your car a '63 (with heater controls under the dash in a plastic housing) or a '64 (with heater controls above the radio in the dash itself)? The basic difference in the evaporator mounting bracket is that the '63 bracket has an upside-down podium or stairstep shape that spaces the evaporator downward from the bottom of the dash to clear the heater controls. This is not a good setup; the evaporator gets in the way of the driver's ability to lift his foot off the accelerator quickly, and gets in the way of passengers' feet as well. The '64-up bracket is flat and holds the evaporator up to the bottom of the dash. This is a much less obnoxious arrangement, and if your car is a '63 it would be well worth your time, effort, and trim part hunting time to move the heater controls up to the '64 location in the dashboard, then use the '64 evaporator bracket as-is.Quote: Does anyone have photos of original mounting brackets for the evaporator?
Yes, but only in print form and still boxed up from the big move. Quote: Also, any photos of the under hood hose routing would be grand.
The factory arrangement has the discharge line coming off the compressor muffler and looping round the battery, then crossing forward of the radiator support panel on the driver's side to the condenser. Then over on the passenger side a hardline comes off the condenser and goes to the inlet of a horizontal filter-dryer mounted on the inner fender, then a line comes off the rear of the filter-dryer and goes through the firewall to the evaporator. Nearby, the suction line comes through the firewall and runs forward (along the inner fender rather than over the valve cover if you're thinking ahead and making life easy for yourself on future valve adjustments) and then laterally over to the rear of the compressor. The horizontal filter-dryer has been N/A for years, and you must use a new filter-dryer. Mounting a vertical unit on the passenger inner fender gets in the way of servicing the oil filter or distributor. Cleaner and better: put a vertical filter-dryer right at the outlet of the condenser, on the front of the radiator support panel, then go 90° off the filter dryer and run the line rearward along the inner fender to the firewall. Quote: I grabbed an under hood system from a 64 Valiant in the scrap yard, but I believe the routing is different from the 63.
No, '63 and '64 routing is the same. Do keep in mind you'll need to upgrade the radiator and fan. And give serious thought to replacing the original condenser with a much more efficient parallel-flow type to get better cooling and less torque load on the engine. See here and follow the links.
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| Author: | oldiron36 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:48 am ] |
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Dan, I was guessing the under hood routing was different because the car in the scrap yard had an integral AC unit, not the hang-on unit. I guess it could have been a 65. It was fairly well beat up and the roof crushed in. I do remember a 64 cast date on the engine block, which could have gone either way. I am still leaning toward the floor-mount option due to the fact that I consider this a rather unique car, being it is a first-month production, and may be the earliest one in existence. I have a 65 Mustang with factory hang-on AC. The evaporator box is shifted over to the passenger's side to give the driver more foot room. I think I can engineer some fancy floor-mount brackets to do the same thing. I am just wondering what the factory brackets looked like, so I can replicate the style and paint color. I am thinking this car "may" have had AC at one point in time earlier. My wife's family thinks so, and the original setup was rumored to be in a barn in New Mexico, which does not belong to the family any more. There are plugged holes in the fire wall for the hoses, and there are 4 screw holes in the tranny tunnel under the dash. There is no evidence a condenser or drier was ever installed. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:44 am ] |
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Quote: Dan, I was guessing the under hood routing was different because the car in the scrap yard had an integral AC unit, not the hang-on unit. I guess it could have been a 65.
Ooh, yeah…'65 was the first year for integral heat/AC availability in A-bodies. Inside the car is very different to the hang-on units, but under the hood the differences are very minor.
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