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Author:  twentyshots [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  when did antifreeze become green?

since i hadn't really done it yet, i popped the radiator cap and looked in....this is what i got a little sample of....
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could it be that this is 30 year old antifreeze? from what i know of the car, it's possible......
i guess it would be ethylene glycol or methyl alcohol...just curious if anyone could tell the difference....and when did antifreeze go "green"?

Author:  wjajr [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:13 am ]
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Zerex, and a bunch of other brands of antifreeze that have been around for a long time are green as well.

Author:  twentyshots [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:07 pm ]
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this stuff seems brown...so maybe it was green at one point....or always brown....i'm not sure how it ages but but it makes me wonder how long it has been in there.....

Author:  Reed [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:15 pm ]
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Really REALLY old radiator fluid can turn reddish brown, but most likely someone put in the wrong fluid. The modern G-05 formulation for 2003+ Chrysler vehicles is bright orange. There are also generic blends advertised as working in all systems that can be orange or even red. My advice would be to play it safe, drain and flush the whole system, and fill it up with good old bright green ethylene glycol.

Author:  twentyshots [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:48 pm ]
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Really REALLY old radiator fluid can turn reddish brown, but most likely someone put in the wrong fluid. The modern G-05 formulation for 2003+ Chrysler vehicles is bright orange. There are also generic blends advertised as working in all systems that can be orange or even red. My advice would be to play it safe, drain and flush the whole system, and fill it up with good old bright green ethylene glycol.
yeah, that's what i'm thinking!
i mean if this car was really only driven from 1961-73 (when the original owner died) this could be that old!
a proper flush is in order......


i just found some of the original paperwork that came with the car.....it said the radiator was boiled out in '69......

Author:  Reed [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:16 pm ]
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If that is the case, I would be worried that someone used straight water and let it sit in the block for years. Definitely power flush and reverse flush the system and make sure the cooling passages in the block aren't rusted up. Letting a car sit too much can actually be worse for it than driving it hard.

Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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That is one fine automobile you found there. Great looking photo.

Author:  wjajr [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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I hate to sound pessimistic, but old coolant becomes acidic eating the cooling system from inside out. Be prepared to repair or replace radiator heater core, water pump, thermostat, and radiator.

Were this system was in need of boiling out in ‘69, tells me that the system is most likely badly corroded, and never been maintained since new. In order to get this car road worthy, and trust worthy you need to go through the cooling system, replacing every soft part, and pressure testing radiator & heater core servicing as necessary. Head & block need to be flushed. Be prepared to replace water pump as it will soon start leaking.

Cars that sit for extended periods of time suffer from seals drying out, and shrinking with leaks developing soon after car is pressed into service

Author:  twentyshots [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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If that is the case, I would be worried that someone used straight water and let it sit in the block for years. Definitely power flush and reverse flush the system and make sure the cooling passages in the block aren't rusted up. Letting a car sit too much can actually be worse for it than driving it hard.
thanks....yes, it has sat a lot. i plan on just kind of going through one thing at a time....might take awhile.
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That is one fine automobile you found there. Great looking photo.
thanks! i love it although i have only driven it about 6 miles!
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I hate to sound pessimistic, but old coolant becomes acidic eating the cooling system from inside out. Be prepared to repair or replace radiator heater core, water pump, thermostat, and radiator.

Were this system was in need of boiling out in ‘69, tells me that the system is most likely badly corroded, and never been maintained since new. In order to get this car road worthy, and trust worthy you need to go through the cooling system, replacing every soft part, and pressure testing radiator & heater core servicing as necessary. Head & block need to be flushed. Be prepared to replace water pump as it will soon start leaking.

Cars that sit for extended periods of time suffer from seals drying out, and shrinking with leaks developing soon after car is pressed into service
yeah, i'm afraid you may be right.....with a little help from a uncle, a seasoned mechanic, i hope to get this baby purring again. i guess the catch 22 of getting a car that has hardly been driven is all the working parts are in need of attention just as if they were OVERworked.....

anyway, thought you guys might get a kick out of this receipt...i'm going to post this and the original bill of sale in my intro thread as well.....just because this little glance into the past is pretty cool....

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Author:  Mroldfart2u [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:35 am ]
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yeah, i'm afraid you may be right.....with a little help from a uncle, a seasoned mechanic, i hope to get this baby purring again. i guess the catch 22 of getting a car that has hardly been driven is all the working parts are in need of attention just as if they were OVERworked.....

anyway, thought you guys might get a kick out of this receipt...i'm going to post this and the original bill of sale in my intro thread as well.....just because this little glance into the past is pretty cool....

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What the heck is a HD Fan? :shock:

Author:  Reed [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:42 am ]
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What the heck is a HD Fan? :shock:
Probably the fixed blade seven-bladed fan Chrysler installed on A/C equipped and towing package cars. My brother's 74 Duster has one from the factory along with a fan shroud since it is factory A/C equipped. interstingly, it also has no fresh air vents in the cowl to rust out. :twisted:

Author:  twentyshots [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:51 pm ]
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we're doing the flush in the morning....any suggestions on a brand of ethylene glycol to get? or does it matter?

i saw the thread for evan's but that is too costly at the moment.

also- is there a way to search this website by topic only?
whenever i put in a search word it finds any thread where the word is mentioned.....the search for "coolant" yielded 1,400 results!

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:00 pm ]
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There is no topic-based search such as you have in mind; it would be wonderful if there were, but it would require an enormous amount of work to implement such a database and keep it up to date. For now it's keyword only.

Use G-05 type coolant from a reputable brand (Prestone and Zerex are the two biggies; Peak isn't unknown, and of course there are always automakers' own brands). Do not(!!!) use Dex-Cool!

Author:  twentyshots [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:19 pm ]
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will do.
i appreciate the quick response.

Author:  emsvitil [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:45 pm ]
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And don't get the 50/50 premix....


It's cheaper to mix it yourself.

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