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 Post subject: Rear Gear Oil
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:39 pm 
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How many of you racers run 40 or 50 wt engine oil in the rear end of your drag car instead of 85W140 Hypoid stuff?


I have talked to romeo about this But I haven't tried it yet.. I don't want to blow anything up.. or shear gears or anything dumb like that.


I have heard stories about some guys doing this...


I was just curious..

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:46 pm 
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No hypoid additives, I wouldn't risk it............

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There are many engineered "lite" gear oils made for this application...
Redline has a few different ones.
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Spool or SG?

I have seen quite a few people run ATF when they have a spool.

Not sure I would go that thin, but it works for them.

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A lot of the blown alcohol bogger cars run white grease......specially with ratios over 4.88

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Say,
The 50 wt crankcase oil is in the same viscosity range as the 90 wt gear oil. They rate them differently to get the different #'s. Confusing but true. Running the 75w90 would be a good choice. I see Redline's Superlite is just a 75w90. I've heard the same stories about ATF in rear-ends but never tried it. The ATF (10-20wt) would fall into the 75-80 wt class in gear oils. Good luck
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this is one of my secrets of a race car that can stay dialed in. My car with the stock engine i used ------ in the rearend racers said you can not do this. I can do what i want to in my race car. With the Bruner race engine I use ------- in the rear end . It is not so much I would tell but it is about the performance and dependable that I have had and that is what it is worth. I can tell you what I have used and what i now use at the Banquit. Thanks Ron :D







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Not everyone can use chewin tobacco in their diff Ron.....it will mess yer Sure-Grip.

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Spool or SG?

I have seen quite a few people run ATF when they have a spool.

Not sure I would go that thin, but it works for them.

I bought a Duster in the mid '80s that had ATF in the diff along with 6.17 gears.

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wrong answer Sandy as usual but it could be Bagel frosting Ron :D













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Spool or SG?

I have seen quite a few people run ATF when they have a spool.

Not sure I would go that thin, but it works for them.

In My case this would be with a spool.

No sure grip or clutches of any kind.

I want to try to achieve some oil / weight / viscosity between cold runs and hot ones..

THe cold runs the car is a bit slower so If at a race the car sits looooong between rounds or is just cold it slows down sometimes a tenth. :-(


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I can tell you what I have used and what i now use at the Banquit. Thanks Ron :D


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I'm gonna hold you to that Ron. I wanna do what you do too! :wink:

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I want to try to achieve some oil / weight / viscosity between cold runs and hot ones..

THe cold runs the car is a bit slower so If at a race the car sits looooong between rounds or is just cold it slows down sometimes a tenth. :-(


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I've seen many of the faster cars (You know, the Big Dogs) running their cars up on jack stands before a pass to warm up the trans and rear...

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I want to try to achieve some oil / weight / viscosity between cold runs and hot ones..

THe cold runs the car is a bit slower so If at a race the car sits looooong between rounds or is just cold it slows down sometimes a tenth. :-(


Greg
I've seen many of the faster cars (You know, the Big Dogs) running their cars up on jack stands before a pass to warm up the trans and rear...

Yes I have done this and it does help, but it's not the same as a 105 mph blast down the 1/4 Mile At times rear gear temps after a run are 105* and then quickly cooll back to 85-60* running on a jack somtimes gets it back up to 90*..


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I can tell you what I have used and what i now use at the Banquit. Thanks Ron :D


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I'm gonna hold you to that Ron. I wanna do what you do too! :wink:
Drink heavily and pass out early? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Greg, it does help consistency to make a long trip to staging after you sit for awhile. If you get held up in staging it's best to dial down a little.

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