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 Post subject: T-5 clutch?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:14 am 
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In most applications does the T5 transmission use hydraulic clutch actuation?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:16 am 
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I believe most or all of the 5.0L Mustangs from 79-93 (original T5 apps) used a cable operated clutch. I don't know beyond that. I am using the McLeod hydro TOB that slips over the input bearing retainer and is concentric with the input shaft.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:29 am 
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I am not 100% possitive on this but pretty sure it was in 1996 when mustangs started using hydraulic. That's the year they switched body styles from boxy to more aerodynamic.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:37 am 
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Thanks guys. I am considering swapping to a manual so I am gathering info.
I was thinking of maybe using and aftermarket pedal set up with all hydraulics.


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AFAIK "the general" used hydraulic setups on the '80s F-body twins, but the aftermarket designs look much nicer.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:32 pm 
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Mustangs from 87- 2004 use a cable to actuate the clutch, they make hyd conversion kits, but it's just a bracket with a generic 2bolt slave cylinder attached.


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I have a 90 Foxbody stang as my daily driver. The cable actuated clutch, its the thing I hate most about the car.Basically cause of the pedal pressure required to operate the clutch. To stiff for an old guy like me...lol

Anyway, the only aftermarket clutch setup i've seen available is the one from McCloud,, and the kit is like $600 buck. Thats the only reason I dont have one yet.
Anyway, it consists of a hyd master cyl designed to fit to the mustang firewall, a remote resevoir, a stainless braded line, and for the slave cyl, you can have a pull type slave cyl that attaches with a bracket, or you can get it with a hyd throwout bearing type cyl.

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 Post subject: hyraulic setups
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:02 pm 
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I have a 90 Foxbody stang as my daily driver. The cable actuated clutch, its the thing I hate most about the car.Basically cause of the pedal pressure required to operate the clutch. To stiff for an old guy like me...lol
My left knee and I wholeheartedly agree. :roll: It's unfortunate that my decade+ of daily driving my Foxbody (and double-clutching every downshift) took such a toll on my body. :( As the saying goes, "Too soon old, too late smart."
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Anyway, the only aftermarket clutch setup i've seen available is the one from McCloud,, and the kit is like $600 buck. Thats the only reason I dont have one yet.
The easiest to retrofit would be the hydraulic T-O bearing, but it's also the hardest to repair if anything ever goes wrong with it. Have to remove the trans to get to it.

I've seen a couple of interesting "backyard ingenuity" possibilities. Here is a bracket (click "Store", then scroll down to the "T5 clutch bracket" section), and here I think might be the same bracket with a slave cylinder included (click on the "Products" section in the Table of Contents, to "hydraulic clutch parts").

It's just geometry, not rocket science, but bears mentioning in case you hadn't considered it: lowest pedal effort will require longest possible pedal travel while still retaining full release. For such a stiff pressure plate, designing the master and slave cylinder throws to match that need will be crucial. Otherwise, aside from a reduction in cable friction, there's no reason to expect that a hydraulic system would necessarily be any easier to push.

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