The seal goes into the timing cover from the inside.
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| Author: | Ed Mullen [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | changing front crank seal in car |
My wife's Valiant's front seal is starting to go. I have yet to check chain for slop. It has really low miles, and it is entirely possible that the chain has not stretched yet. I'd like to put off the timing cover gasket until I can pull motor and do oil pan gasket and rear main seal at same time. (moving July 1 to a place w/paved driveway and 2-car garage--my present situation offers a shared lot in the back, the street, and a garage I rent around the corner that has no electricity, or pavemet to roll a hoist, or engine stand, on). If I don't have to touch the chain, I'd like to just pull the damper, pop the seal, and use my balancer press setup (bolt, nut and pile of washers) to drive the seal (I'm thinking I can use an appropriate sized hole-saw to make a plywood disc, and drill out the arbor hole to slip over the bolt.) Has anyone ever tried this? I can't recall if the end of the crank protrudes beyond the lip of the seal. (Even if it does I guess I could use a large diameter pipe cap in the bolt, nut, washer, plywood sandwich.) |
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:50 pm ] |
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The seal goes into the timing cover from the inside.
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| Author: | Reed [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:53 pm ] |
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Hang on, I thought the crank seal changed to being installed rom the outside in the late 60s/early 70s? The last few i have installed I pounded in from the outside with great results. |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
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This is a: Pull damper, Pull Timing cover. Use punch to tap out old seal. Use large piece of pipe or large socket to drive in (you could also get creative with a punch and going around the seal slowly and gently, or a nice block of DF and mallet can do the job). Suggest Victor Reinz Timing Cover gasket set, as it has the Timing Cover gasket and the special oil pan to tming cover seal as well. I also would suggest Doc Dodge's timing cover reinstall Tip #2: Get 4 bolts that are slightly longer than the stock 4 between the cover and oil pan and use them to locate and install the cover first... makes in car install finish much faster with less leaks and headaches.  -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Ed Mullen [ Mon May 06, 2013 4:02 pm ] |
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Quote: The seal goes into the timing cover from the inside.
I could swear I installed the van one from the outside. (the cover was off, so I really don't recall which way it was facing when I drove it in.)Oh well, if the cover has to come off, then it can wait until it is on an engine stand, and I can do everything at once. thanks. |
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| Author: | Doc [ Mon May 06, 2013 4:30 pm ] |
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SL6 T. Covers were designed both ways... Most of the early ones have the seal pressed-in... from the inside. Later covers, had a different seal, installed from the front. (1980's and up) A quick look will tell you what you have. DD |
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| Author: | Reed [ Mon May 06, 2013 5:13 pm ] |
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I could swear that the Volares I have worked on all had crank seals that pressed in from the outside. That was about 15 years ago though, and my mind is getting fuzzy these days. |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Mon May 06, 2013 7:22 pm ] |
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I do not recall seeing one pressed from the outside, but almost all of my experience is pre 1980. Lou |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Mon May 06, 2013 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hmm... |
Quote: I do not recall seeing one pressed from the outside, but almost all of my experience is pre 1980.
You know all the early ones I have are that way...I have a couple of 80's truck covers I'll have to look at...I know they have the same timing tube and tab as the 1979 covers....Hmmmm... -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Ed Mullen [ Tue May 07, 2013 8:12 am ] |
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It's all moot I guess, as it is a '70. I didn't know there was a difference. Good thing it was mentioned here, as I was going to just order 2 of everything using 1987 part #s and pull both motors after I move. Thanks. |
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| Author: | Ed Mullen [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:19 am ] |
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I just checked rockauto. They list the same front seal from 67-87. Is that right? |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Yep.. |
Fel-pro and Victor seem to have the same seal regardless of the type of rebuild gasket kit ordered. Should be fine for your application. -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Ed Mullen [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:27 am ] |
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thanks |
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