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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:48 pm 
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I don't seem to find more than 3 or 4 but am hesitant to rock
and pry the 445 / 4530 tranny any more than I have on the
sneaking suspicion that I've missed a bolt or two...

Help?

-m

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:19 pm 
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I don't seem to find more than 3 or 4 but am hesitant to rock
and pry the 445 / 4530 tranny any more than I have on the
sneaking suspicion that I've missed a bolt or two...
There are three on the upper inside of the bellhousing not accessible from the outside like the automatics or A-833/3spd bells, you will have to pull the 4 bolts holding the tranny to the bellhousing, remove the tranny, then remove the clutch cover and disc (6 bolts), then pull the flywheel (6 bolts), then pull these 3 hidden bolts...then you can remove the bellhousing...

Good luck, this setup is a bear to get apart compared to everything else.

-D.Idiot


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:52 pm 
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Thank you!
I suppose if I just want to change the clutch and pressure plate
And have the flywheel resurfaced, I may not have to actually remove
The bell housing at all?

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flywheel needs to come before you get to bellhousing bolts


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:21 pm 
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I may not have to actually remove
The bell housing at all?
Yep, you can leave it in place and remove the other stuff...

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As was stated before, the transmission must come out first. If it's just a clutch replacement then leave the bellhousing in place. It's not like modern vehicles with integrated bells.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:38 pm 
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Proof positive that you should ask for help more often...

What a relief to at least know I'm on the right track.

Will give an update - haven't gotten hold of a Factory
Service Manual yet - which I guess is obvious.

Will update on progress and thanks all...

-m

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:36 pm 
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Wondering, any thoughts on how to clean up and replace the seals?

I'll look back through the posts now that I have it out. Came down
with the flu so things are even more slow with this than before.

Really tempting to open it up but I guess a lot of 'edjamacation' might
be in order before I start on that. Notice some surface rust and plate
screw missing. Rear seal definitely blown - lots of gear oil all over
underneath. Not sure how to get that big nut off without damaging gears
in the tranny.

Anyway, that's the report - thanks for all the guidance.

Will probably at this point pull and clean the bell housing. A lot
of this crud is probably from unattended valve cover gasket
leakage over time.

-DCello

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:26 pm 
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Funny also, I asked Carquest to send the splined pressure plate and
they still sent me the old style - which now I decided I like.

They also included the wrong dang pilot tool, 24 vs. 23.
I checked that the disk itself fits right on the shaft which is 23.

Used to have a collection of tools but they're of course sending off
for a 23.

Someone somewhere said or wrote that extra (& stronger?)
springs can be added to the old style pressure plate.

Feel free to comment, of course.

DCello

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