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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:28 pm ] |
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Hey folks -- So, after running just dandy, never having a problem with the starter, etc. I got into the car, turned the ignition and bupkis. No sound, no starter click, nothing. Power is there to the lights, dashlights, etc. Checked under the hood to see if a wire had come loose, but all seems tight and connected. My first idea is that the ballast resistor is caput -- this happened to me many years ago (the Bush I administration...), and th symptom, as I dimly recall, was the same -- a big fat nada. Any other ideas? R |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:54 pm ] |
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What happens to the lights when you hit the starter? |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:01 pm ] |
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The usual -- slight dimming. |
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| Author: | gato [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:05 pm ] |
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will it crank/start if u cross the solenoid with a screwdriver? |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:40 pm ] |
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Haven't tried it...and don't know how to...(one of the sad cases of growing up in a completely non-mechanically minded nuclear family, although we COULD play logic games around the dinner table!). What steps do I need to take to do this? |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:30 am ] |
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Ballast resistor has nothing to do with the starter. Is battery fully charged? Check connection (s) at battery, starter, starter relay. Make sure trans is in park or neutral |
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| Author: | gato [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:09 am ] |
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r u familiar with the starter assembly? it's been a while since i've done it. let me get a fresh look at my starter so i don't give u bad info. |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:31 am ] |
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Battery fully charged, all connections tight. No noise from the starter at all when I turn the key. |
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:40 am ] |
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Quote: Haven't tried it...and don't know how to...(one of the sad cases of growing up in a completely non-mechanically minded nuclear family, although we COULD play logic games around the dinner table!).
Take a screw driver or any handy piece of metal and connect ("bridge") across the two wire posts coming off the starter motor. (do not touch the main starter case while doing this)What steps do I need to take to do this? The starter should "energize" if the starter and battery are both OK. If so, the problem is likely the starter relay. You can start the engine if you turn the key (ignition) to the run position and then jump the starter from under the hood, as described above. DD |
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| Author: | sandy in BC [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:42 am ] |
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.....in neutral...parking brake on....standing to one side |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:43 am ] |
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Thanks, Doc! The relay is the on the firewall, correct? Seems like an easy replace job. R |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:25 am ] |
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Well, first, I jumped the starter terminals, and it jumped. So I went to Napa and bought a relay -- I got a two-blade terminal incorrectly. Plus a ballast resistor. And a new starter solenoid. Replaced the resistor and relay. Tried the relay with the yellow wire on each pof the two terminals. Nothing. Don't know where the solenoid lives to replace that (it's a '62 Lancer, with a 170) -- looked all over and couldn't find it. So, what next? The ignition switch? The wiring? How do I check? Is it the wrong relay and that's the issue? BONUS -- when I shut the door, the internal mechanism broke, and now I can't open the driver door execpt from the inside. Grrrrr. |
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| Author: | Robuluxe [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:11 am ] |
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Further -- followed all the wires to the starter and there IS no solenoid currently on the car. The starter must have been swapped at some point for one with a solenoid, unless I'm missing something... |
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| Author: | gato [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:34 am ] |
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The place where the wires attach to the starter IS the solenoid. It is all one unit with the starter. |
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| Author: | crater [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:02 pm ] |
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Possible solution if you're an automatic transmission. Try starting from neutral instead of park? Perhaps in between a few gears. Move the shifter around till you hear a click for the neutral (or park) safety switch. On my dart the shifter was slightly out of adjustment and wont always start in park. |
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