Slant Six Forum :: New Class

Honestly? We have way too many classes now.

I understand your line of thought, but it could become a nightmare to police.

As long as the economy is weak and fuel prices high we are going to struggle to gain cars.

How you going to police "stock"? I have seen bone stock Slant cars run anywhere from 18:60 to 23:XX.

Would you have more fun bracket racing where you have a chance or in a heads-up class you know you're going to get killed in?

D/G is for record purposes only, it is not a real race class.

Slant 6 racing is one of the cheapest classes I have ever run. They still didn't have any cars at Vegas.

Anymore it just plain costs too much money to travel and run for little chance of return. Doing it for fun only lasts so long unless you got the bucks to do it.

I thought you were going to run something local. SSRN already allows for stock 1bbl cars. Seen them win.

Our cars are old enough now, parts availability is dropping off rapidly, quality in the aftermarket is dropping, and folks that run them aren't as apt to take them out to the track and flog them.

As a local meet, a 1bbl race might be a novelty. Won't put butts in the bleachers, but it might draw a crowd of racers. Drag racing is addictive. I don't think I've run into many that try it, and say, "No, that wasn't fun."

Author:	805moparkid [ Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:26 pm ]
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so i was thinking, we have some good class racing, simple but effective. Something i learned while playing on my 68 in SAC was that there is alot in a stock motor, so it got me thinking. Why dont we have a 1 barrel class? Real simple stock weight, say nothing under 3200lbs One 1 barrel on a factory intake manifold etc. maybe like a FAST deal

Author:	ceej [ Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:41 pm ]
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I like it! Are you sure you want to limit to stock intakes? How about modified single barrel intakes to allow different mounting patterns and so forth? CJ

Author:	GTS225 [ Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:38 pm ]
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Careful, here. Wasn't Charles Meyer's Arrow fed by a "one-barrel"? Admittedly, it was a Ron's "flying toilet" throttle body fuel injector, but still a rather big one barrel. Roger

Author:	805moparkid [ Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:33 pm ]
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CJ im just throwing something out there. I like the D/G class because it is a "street" class, but lets face it, there are some like me who are going to push that limit. But this class would be making the best out of stock, so a FAST class. Maybe a FAST 1 (one barrel) and FAST 2 (2 barrel). Limiting a class to say a 1barrel of X cfm of throttle blade size, or a holley 1920/BBD/carter would allow any stock car to enter and not have to worry about getting beat up on. Also the field would be big so the dial ins would be on top of each other, or even heads up. I think lately (from what im hearing and reading) that this is trying to get to big for its boots. There is only so many of us, excluding some, or any is not an option. IMO we need to make it as easy to get into, at any cost range. We can have more turn out that way. The points is cool, but in all reality we dont live in an economy where thats feasible, a gambler is probably more realistic and again dosn't exclude anyone. All i know i really dont care what you guys do for all the points and what not, when im back on the level im taking D/G and hangin onto it for a long time.

Author:	slantzilla [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:53 am ]
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Honestly? We have way too many classes now. I understand your line of thought, but it could become a nightmare to police. As long as the economy is weak and fuel prices high we are going to struggle to gain cars.

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Author:	Charrlie_S [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:00 am ]
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Personally, I think we have enough classes, now (if not too many). We have a limited number of cars, as it is. But if people want more classes, I vote for "E" (66 Cuda at 3250 lbs 170 motor.

Author:	805moparkid [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:21 pm ]
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Quote: Honestly? We have way too many classes now. I understand your line of thought, but it could become a nightmare to police. As long as the economy is weak and fuel prices high we are going to struggle to gain cars. ok so let me ask you this? what would be cheaper and more fun, running d/g in a bone stock car on a dial or a heads up class with only stock cars? as far as to many classes it dosnt shut people out, it makes it easier to fit in.

Author:	slantzilla [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:40 pm ]
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How you going to police "stock"? I have seen bone stock Slant cars run anywhere from 18:60 to 23:XX. Would you have more fun bracket racing where you have a chance or in a heads-up class you know you're going to get killed in? D/G is for record purposes only, it is not a real race class. Slant 6 racing is one of the cheapest classes I have ever run. They still didn't have any cars at Vegas. Anymore it just plain costs too much money to travel and run for little chance of return. Doing it for fun only lasts so long unless you got the bucks to do it.

Author:	805moparkid [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:50 pm ]
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Quote: How you going to police "stock"? I have seen bone stock Slant cars run anywhere from 18:60 to 23:XX. Would you have more fun bracket racing where you have a chance or in a heads-up class you know you're going to get killed in? D/G is for record purposes only, it is not a real race class. Slant 6 racing is one of the cheapest classes I have ever run. They still didn't have any cars at Vegas. Anymore it just plain costs too much money to travel and run for little chance of return. Doing it for fun only lasts so long unless you got the bucks to do it. well of course vegas dosn't have the turn out, Im in Phx (5hrs), Mark is in Longbeach (i think 7hrs), Scott in Utah (?hrs), Romeo is i think an Hr. but everyone else is 10+ hrs away, on top of that MATS has terrible coordination with the schedual and treat us slant guys like crap, thats why there isn't the turnout there. ive been working with the guys getting the track built in Lompoc CA because its damn near in the middle for all the west coast guys. im looking at a days drive and so are the guys in OR. As far as running for money i never thought that was the point, i mean really, your in the wrong group if your hoping for a "return". And thats part of the problem im seeing, thats what people either think/expect/or want out of this. This is and never will be a large group, and never be a money making deal.

Author:	ceej [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:40 pm ]
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I thought you were going to run something local. SSRN already allows for stock 1bbl cars. Seen them win. Our cars are old enough now, parts availability is dropping off rapidly, quality in the aftermarket is dropping, and folks that run them aren't as apt to take them out to the track and flog them. As a local meet, a 1bbl race might be a novelty. Won't put butts in the bleachers, but it might draw a crowd of racers. Drag racing is addictive. I don't think I've run into many that try it, and say, "No, that wasn't fun." CJ

Author:	bmimken [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:26 pm ]
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I would have a few concerns with having a "heads-up" class like the 1 bbl or 2bbl classes. 1. Classes have to have clear and detailed rules regarding engine/carb/intake/exhaust/etc./etc./etc. 2. Classes have to have cars inspected by someone when disputes arise. 3. Rules are made to broken, humans will always find gray areas despite the best efforts to prevent them. I like the idea of a "heads-up" racing class. I hope my concerns are just a result of an overactive imagination. The simpler the rules are, the better it is. Bracket racing is the easiest and cheapest way to race in general. Just have to meet track tech inspections, and line up at the starting line. Brian

Author:	805moparkid [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:45 pm ]
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Quote: I thought you were going to run something local. SSRN already allows for stock 1bbl cars. Seen them win. Our cars are old enough now, parts availability is dropping off rapidly, quality in the aftermarket is dropping, and folks that run them aren't as apt to take them out to the track and flog them. As a local meet, a 1bbl race might be a novelty. Won't put butts in the bleachers, but it might draw a crowd of racers. Drag racing is addictive. I don't think I've run into many that try it, and say, "No, that wasn't fun." CJ well when the car is going again i'll get with 300fan and we can get something going at Wild Horse Pass (Ex- firebird). Just the reality is it would probably just be the guys that were at vegas which is alright, we can only do what we can do.

Author:	300fan [ Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:22 pm ]
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805, I kinda like the idea as it may bring some new people in.As for races in this neck of the woods, I'm glad to just have the chance to be able to put something together at a couple different tracks instead of just 1 a year.Our October race at WildHorse should be a good one. Hoping to get some more folks from So-Cal and the Phoenix areas. I'm also thinking of trying to do a race at Bakersfield next year and would like to see if there would be any interest in that.

Author:	Romeo Furio [ Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:45 pm ]
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Truthfully,,my take on this is the cost factor. Not of the cars but the travel that is keeping the car count down. When I started gas was $1 and I had a race budget of $10,000 a year. Time has changed and now my race budget is about $500 so it limits what I can do. I would love to go to events that we are wanted to be there. Vegas sure ain't one of those tracks,even with a car count of 15 or better. :oops:I know we have west coast and east coast races and I really don't belong to either group because of only making one race with each group. I love the Covalt/Maryland race because the track treats us like we are Top Fuelers. But I won't be heading east much anymore as the budget isn't there for a 6,000 mile round trip. I wish I could do more

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Author:	limedust70 [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:00 pm ]
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I was one of 5 slants at MATS this year. I towed 4 hours from So-Cal, shared a room, didn't buy an event shirt, did renew MCG, and still spent over $450. Scott came from Cedar City so was little closer. Andrew came from Eureka, spent close to $1000 for a 4 car race. They must have been low on car count this year because we got 3 runs Friday & Saturday, & they didn't even worry about punching the run cards. The unexpected thing was receiving a check this week for making the semi-finals. 4 cars & we all received something. I have been there 3 times before running a stock one barrel with a bad exhaust valve in number 5 cylinder running 20+ seconds & I have a blast. This year I had some work done so the car was an actual 6 but had other issues so actually ran slower. I have raced Mark (Mad Max) and getting a 10 second head start makes it interesting, seeing his lights come down & hearing him coming, seeing him pass me at the line, not knowing until getting the time slip that I ran too fast. I rationalize that I am getting more track time for my money than the guys running twice as quick. Problem is MATS is the closest Slant race. Sacramento is next closest & it is still 8 hours away. I traveled to Redding 3 years ago. Like someone else was saying, it really isn't the cost of the event, it is the travel costs that kill you. Right now Samoa is in my plans for July but that will be about it. Probably won't make an event in Oregon unless I could store the car up north & then only tow half way. Now that Fontana is running again we could approach them to see what we can get on the schedule for next year. Famoso, outside of Bakersfield, has a Mopar event the first weekend in October tied in with Mopar Action Magazine & a West Coast Outlaw Pro-Mods event. That might be an option. This year would be in conflict with Redding. Rambled a bit but what the hay...... take the car out & have fun.