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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:29 pm 
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I'm guessing you'd need the Ford style shock plate when using the 8 inch rear in an a body? Or does it matter?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:21 am 
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I'm guessing you'd need the Ford style shock plate when using the 8 inch rear in an a body? Or does it matter?
8" or 8.8?
With the 8.8 you'll need some persuasion and some larger u bolts. However I just installed an 8.8 in a GTX for a customer and used Mancini's Shock Plates and u bolts for an 8.75". Worked great.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:25 am 
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You need shock plates that will mount the A body shocks.

I used A body plates to mount an 8.8. Some modifications were required. New ubolts are always a good idea.

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I have used 8.75"/8.25" Mopar plates and Ubolts on mine (3" axle tubes). The tubes are usually 2.75" on the 8" axle, so you need some 1/8" strip steel spacers to make the bolts fit properly.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:19 pm 
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It is the 8" rear. Thanks everyone. Lou, could you get a picture of that setup?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:13 pm 
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I am hopeless with pictures and I don't have a "smart" phone. I do writing and visual production as a big part of my job and so can't bear to do it as part of my hobby. Come to my house or a race and I am happy to show you...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:27 pm 
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Understand that. Thanks Lou, I can probably figure it out.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:31 pm 
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I'm guessing you'd need the Ford style shock plate when using the 8 inch rear in an a body? Or does it matter?
8" or 8.8?
With the 8.8 you'll need some persuasion and some larger u bolts. However I just installed an 8.8 in a GTX for a customer and used Mancini's Shock Plates and u bolts for an 8.75". Worked great.
Whats your opinion on the 8.8??


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:33 am 
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I used a narrowed Explorer 8.8 in my 65 Valaint with great success. The width is perfect and the rear discs are a nice match for factory A body discs.

I used the same rear in my 51 DeSoto and find the rear discs are a little small for use with the larger late B body discs.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:29 am 
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Sandy,
what ratio did you end up with in your '65?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:18 am 
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3.55

It was installed with an OD 5 speed and 235/60/14 tires

In my DeSoto the ratio is also 3.55 with an OD automatic ...with 265/75/15 tires

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:35 am 
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I'm guessing you'd need the Ford style shock plate when using the 8 inch rear in an a body? Or does it matter?
8" or 8.8?
With the 8.8 you'll need some persuasion and some larger u bolts. However I just installed an 8.8 in a GTX for a customer and used Mancini's Shock Plates and u bolts for an 8.75". Worked great.
Whats your opinion on the 8.8??
Awesome swap. Reliable(key word there) factory disc breaks, rebuildable LSD, No narrowing needed for most applications with rim back spacing, 5x4.5 Lug spacing. Good unit can be had for 350.00 at your local yard, about 800.00 in parts for a full rebuild. Good luck building a 8.75 for cheaper.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:42 am 
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I would add: easy Ebrake solutions
easy/cheap/available parts.
Many ratio choices
light weight

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:07 pm 
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Lou, What did you choose to run for a u joint? Also, did the driveshaft have to be shortened?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:03 am 
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I used a conversion joint from Mopar 7260 to early 90s Mustang 5.0, then you have to rob the 1.125" (IIRC) caps from a stock 70s Maverick joint for the Mustang side of the joint. Denny's or someone could sell you a direct adapter too, but might be just as much as your local parts store buying the 2 I mentioned. I have done 2 8" swaps (from a 7.25" mopar) and did not need dshaft length change. Others have found the same.

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