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Author:  Dartvader [ Sat May 31, 2003 6:13 am ]
Post subject:  a-833 shifter hangs up on 1-2 shift.What's up?

One of myDarts has an a-833 OD trans with the inexpensive "Indy" Hurst shifter. It drives around town fine, but as soon as I get in a hurry to shift, it hangs up on the way to 2nd gear. This makes racing it totaly out if the question. Any tips out there on why this thing is hanging up? Do I need a better shifter, or is there an adjustment that will eliminate the problem? Of course the Dart with the T-5 shifts flawlessly on 1-2 because reverse is on the other side. I know some shifters have a reverse lockout. Thanks in advance.

Author:  Dart270 [ Sat May 31, 2003 9:37 pm ]
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Vader,

Could be worn synchros on #2 gear, and have nothing to do with the shifter. My 1st T5 did that - wouldn't go into 2nd if I revved it at all, and even ground a bit. Sorry I can't help you on the shifter.

Lou

Author:  Dartvader [ Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:05 am ]
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The details that are not consistent with bad synchros are that it doesn't grind at all and, never pops out of gear the way worn synchros can cause. I hope it's not the synchros. I really don't want to pull this tranny. Any other ideas out there? I'll play with shifting it faster at lower RPM's and see if the high RPM theory is correct.

Author:  DusterIdiot [ Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Sometimes on the stock hurst....

On the stock shift unit, sometimes being a little out of the 'straight' pull back will hang up the shift on one of the mechanism stops....
Another thing to check is your linkage. If one of the spring pins retaining the shift rods is about to go, it'll allow the rod end to tilt out of the receiver hole and kinda bind things up...Been there, did it last month and lost 3-O/D at 55mph during a freeway rush hour trip....carry extra pins/clips...


good luck,

-D.Idiot

Author:  Bruce Johnson [ Sun Jun 01, 2003 5:22 pm ]
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I was useing the original factory hurst super comp Pat. pending I got with the transmission till I desided after 40 years of use it must just be worn out. bought a new supercomp They have improved it by adding positive (adjustible) stops this is worth it allone because the connections to the trans. no longer take the shock of a fast hard shift. I had to do some welding and grinding to repair those pieces recently, a real pain ,, just buy a new super comp, you may have to make some bushings to match your linkage rods (at the shifter) and shim or weld if the slots or studs have been damaged at the transmission make sure when the trans.is in neutral that you can slip the right size pin or drill bit through all the holes and locater in the shifter this puts the shifter where its suppose to be in neutral ajust with the threads on the rods or bend if nessesary also you will need to get the right thickness washers behind the cotterpins to take out the play :D Happy Shifting! Bruce Johnson

Author:  Doc [ Mon Jun 02, 2003 12:30 pm ]
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If the clutch is acting a little "sticky", the drag will keep you out of the next gear. If this is the case, the syncrow is working fine and is doing it's job by keeping you out of gear "clash" until the shaft speeds have equalized.
Bottomline, make sure the clutch is fully releasing at high RPMs.
(Note: many centrificully assisted clutches do not release well at high RPM)
DD

Author:  Dartvader [ Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:51 pm ]
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Those have all been helpful. Thanks! I will take a look at the linkage for both the shifter and the clutch. I suspect it might be a little of everything mentioned. The clutch starts to engage very close to the floor in the engagment process, which means it must released very late on the disengage side. Maybe I need to take out some of the play in the clutch linkage. Thanks again.

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