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| Author: | crickhollow [ Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:31 pm ] |
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What is the difference between a vented and non-vented gas cap? Can you turn a vented gas cap to a non-vented gas cap? Does it make any difference if you use a vented gas cap to a non-vented gas cap? |
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| Author: | Nicademas [ Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:20 pm ] |
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This is what I know. Newer cars use non-vented caps because of the EFI system. The EFI system has high pressure in the fuel line and so use a return line back to the tank. So the tank is apart of the pressurized system and can not have a vented cap. That being said there is a release valve in the cap if the tank has to much pressure in it. This is for safety. Older cars dident have to worry about returning excess fuel back to the tank. And so the tank was not pressurized and dident need a non-vented cap. The vented caps do have a seal around them to keep the vapors in the tank for the most part. I know you cant use a vented cap on a EFI system for it would trip a fault code. Im not sure on the other way around. I dont think one cap could be changed into the other. Why would you want to? I think the tanks were different with the different caps so just changing caps might not work for ya. I assume you are wanting to switch from Carb. to EFI. |
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| Author: | sandy in BC [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:57 am ] |
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I run a TBI system with a stock 65 yearold vented cap.....no problemo. You need a nonvented cap if you are using EVAP emission controls, |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:24 pm ] |
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The non vented caps started around mid 70 on A bodies when they went to the EVAP system. You will have a lot more issues if you use a non vented cap on a vented system than if you use a vented cap on an EVAP system. A vented cap on a late model car will set a code. |
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| Author: | crickhollow [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:49 pm ] |
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I have a 62' Signet and saw a vented fuel cap on Ebay that will fit the Signet. Hence my original question. Thanks |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:57 pm ] |
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That would be correct. |
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| Author: | crickhollow [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:07 pm ] |
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Would there be a problem if I fitted a non-vented gas cap to my 62' Signet? |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:47 pm ] |
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A 62 will have a vent line attached to the filler neck. So a non-vented cap will work with a 62 |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:04 pm ] |
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Vented caps are not used on our cars. All Chrysler Corp cars through '70 ('69 in California) used non-vented fuel caps. All vehicles '70-up in California and '71-up elsewhere use Pressure-Vaccum caps. See here. |
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| Author: | crickhollow [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:31 am ] |
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I have now read the article, thanks. But can I still use a vented fuel cap on my 62' Signet? |
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| Author: | Nicademas [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:39 am ] |
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Quote: I have now read the article, thanks.
I dont see why not.
But can I still use a vented fuel cap on my 62' Signet? |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:11 am ] |
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Quote: I have now read the article, thanks.
If you want to aggravate the tendency of these cars to vomit gasoline all over the quarter panel, then yes, you can use a vented cap.But can I still use a vented fuel cap on my 62' Signet? Why do you want this? |
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| Author: | Killer6 [ Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:53 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: I have now read the article, thanks.
If you want to aggravate the tendency of these cars to vomit gasoline all over the quarter panel, then yes, you can use a vented cap.But can I still use a vented fuel cap on my 62' Signet? Why do you want this? is to allow air to enter the tank as fuel is removed w/o developing vacuum, otherwise fuel flow ceases in short order. Many carbureted cars have fuel returns, ever see three lines on a fuel pump or filter? All tanks build press. FI or not, it is evaporative emissions that is being managed by canister equipped cars that eliminated the free venting systems, not FI. Unless you have a fuel venting problem, and it's poss. spiders-etc. have plugged the vent-line, there is no reason to put one on your vehicle. |
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| Author: | neilskiw [ Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:14 pm ] |
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The previous owner of my '64 put a non-vented cap on the car, and as a vacuum was created in the tank, it sucked the filler neck and the quarter panel inward.... W.T.F. ???????? This was due to the filler neck vent (which is supposed to vent the tank) being tied to some mystery nipple on an incorrect fuel tank that was installed on the car. http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59460 So Dan is right...... assuming that the correct tank is installed on the vehicle. No need for a vented cap. Guess I need a new cap for my new tank. |
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| Author: | Killer6 [ Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:33 pm ] |
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Lol!! The power of atmospheric pressure should not be underestimated! It could crush that fuel tank if you developed enuff vacuum. We have a parts guy who kept putting the small bung back in one of the 55 gal. drums of oil we pump out of. One day another tech was pumping away and BOOM!! It imploded, looked like a three lobe paddle wheel!! Back to your tank, the mystery nipple may be the orig tank vent for that tank, and should've just been capped/plugged. And your vent line from the neck to the frame/atmosphere like it was, you'd be fine. |
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