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Author:  itsa66dart [ Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  318 vs. 340 vs. 360

My question is simple,
Other than the bore and stroke, what is different between a 318,340, and a 360. Are they the same size on the outside??

Author:  NoMo-Par Bob [ Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:41 pm ]
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YES. Externally they are the same size and most parts will interchange. However, there is one change you need to be aware of. The 360 will only fit the 72 earlier with a special motor mount (right side? only). It may have been the left side, I don't remember. If you do this swap, and can't find that part, let me know, I have two of them. They are both NOS items.

Author:  Craig [ Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:04 pm ]
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There's a lot more different than just the one motor mount location change.

318-340 are internally balanced, 360 is externally balanced. Therefore you can not swap vibration damper, flywheel, or torque converters between them. 360 uses larger bearings and crankshaft journals. 360 has one motor mount in different location (as the other poster mentioned). 340-360 heads have larger ports and valves than 318.
Different camshaft profiles, but you can fit any camshaft in any engine.
Intake manifolds have different size ports I believe.
340-360 exhaust manifolds have larger ports in some cases since I know the gaskets are different.
There may be more but do not recall right now but these are the most obvious ones.[/list][/list]

Author:  83Ram150dude [ Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:53 pm ]
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Ok, here's the scoop on the LA smallblock. 318 has a bore of 3.91" and a stroke of 3.31". The 340's stroke is the same as the 318, but the bore is larger-4.04", and no you can't bore a 318 out to a 340. Not enough iron in the block. The 360 is kind of by itself. Bore is 4.00" and stroke is 3.58", plus it is externally balanced and has a larger main bearing size than the 318/340, so cranks wont swap between the three. A 340 crank will fit a 318 and visa-versa, but the balance will be off even though both ar internally balance (except for the 73 only cast crank 340....following yet?).
The 318 heads have small ports and valves, they will fit a 340 or 360, but I wouldn't recommend it. the ports are too small for good breathing at high rpm on both of the larger motors. 318 valve sizes are 1.78" I, 1.50" E. 68-71 340's used 2.02"I and 1.60"E, and 72-73 340 and all 360's used 1.88"I and 1.60" E valves. There have been some conflicting reports of what heads were fitted to the 318 4bbl police package back in the 70's. Some sources say they use the standard 318 heads with the 360 4bbl intake manifold, others say that it used the 360 heads too. Either way both the intake and the heads will swap onto a 318.
The left side motormount is different between the 318 and the 340/360. The 340 and 360 use the same mounts, while the 318 is all by itself (unless you have a 273 then that would be the same). The 360 oil pan is different from the 318 and 340, it has a smaller rear sealing face. Depending on the year, the 318 had a light duty con rod or a HD rod that was the same as the 360. The 340 rod is similar to the 360, but is setup for floating pins.

And these are just a few of the basics, but pretty much everything else is interchangable. I'm assuming the original question was asked because you want to replace a 318 with either a 340 or 360? Thats an easy swap, but if you have a 318, why not do some low-buck performance upgrades to wake that 318 up?

Mopar Action did an article a couple of months back where they took a stock reman 318 from the local Pep-Boys and added a mild cam, headers, a dual plane 4bbl intake and a 650 Demon carb. Pretty much left the heads and compression alone, and guess what? The got 283hp out of that 318 that dyno'd stock at 182hp. Not bad huh? If you think about it that was about 8hp more than the 340 was rated for in its heyday (yeah we all know mopar under-rated it but hey it looks good on paper).

Whatever direction you go, good luck. The mopar smallblock is a great motor, good hp and reliability. Just like our /6 too.

Author:  dart4life [ Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:24 pm ]
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Basically you covered everything, and yes stick with a 318,its a great reliable motor that can be warmed(like our slants!) my plan for my 318 project is 74 318,302 heads off of a 80's 318 for slightly better flow,comp 268 cam(stock 340 specs),340 springs and valves shave heads for 9.2-1 comp.,eddy 318-360 intake with a 650 holley,wich should make a good cruiser!
Now i dont really feel right posting my 318 plans on this site,so i will redeem myself with my slant plans, i have decided to sell my dart,but i am picking up another dart for 100 no engine but i have one aside,i will be going along with Dougs non-stroker-stroker plans with a back yard M.P.I rig and a blue bottle in the trunk for the track, i am wishing for high 13's and then very high 12's with the nos! i am glad i decided on my set up!
sorry but i had to tell someone! :twisted:

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