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Author:  Andy's GT [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  transplanting a slant into a plymouth laser
hi, i brought this up on the post with the guy transplanting a slant into a mercedes, but no one replied, my question is how hard would it be? engine compartment is longer and wider and the same up and down, it has rack and pinion steering, the main problem i think of is the drivetrain, its a fwd car, are there any fwd slant car(le barons or anything?)any ideas appreciated, i would really like to do this, but i dont know if its possible without lots of cutting up the car....thanks
Author:  sixinthehead [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:48 am ]
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The slant is waaay too long for transverse FWD mounting.
Slant into any Diamond-Star car in any orientation is tube frame territory.
Might make a slippery race car (like the Arrows) if you're up to the fab.
Author:  Andy's GT [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:59 am ]
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same thing for rwd?
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Check back posts...
Someone a while back was going to start into a Rampage conversion...would ba about as difficult...

-D.Idiot
Author:  sixinthehead [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:19 pm ]
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I wouldn't consider anything but RWD, and you're talking major surgery either way.
Author:  Rob Simmons [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:32 pm ]
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We've got a Plymouth Turismo at a chassis shop right now getting sliced and diced to convert to a Slant 6 RWD drag race car.

It requires taking a big chunk out of the firewall to set the engine back where it needs to be and then fabricating new steering. The easiest way to do that is a Mustang II type front end.

We're sort of copying the no longer available Mopar Performance Daytona RWD conversion kit. That requires swapping the spindles side to side to make it front steer, cutting and reworking the crossmember, and fabricating a way to mount a front steer type rack and pinion. I found a manual rack to use in the local pull a part yard. It came out of a Porsche 911 :D

The rear suspension is typical "back half" stuff and you have to make a hump for the driveshaft. I'm going with leaf springs to save on cost, but a four link would probably be better.

Joel's Street Rod Shop is right in the middle of cutting everything out and welding in the roll cage and 2X3 tubing for the chassis right now. I'll try to get some digital photos to post maybe this weekend.

Rob
Author:  Andy's GT [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:10 pm ]
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theres lots of room, i am not sure id have to take a bunch out of the firewall, and its got manual rack steering already...
thanks for the input, ill try to talk dad into it :lol:
Author:  Andy's GT [ Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:43 pm ]
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hmm, upon closer investigation, there appears to be a gas tank where the differential and such is supposed to go..., but that could always be moved, theres so much room inthe back of that little car that with the back seat folded down, i fit a big christmas tree back there, cleanup was a pain though....
Author:  panic [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:19 am ]
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It's a great idea, it bolts right in.
In fact, I put one in my Citroen 2CV last nite with a pair of pliers and 2 hose clamps.
Author:  steponmebbbboom [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:16 pm ]
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:lol:

I shouldnt laugh, but I have to agree, this makes no sense if youre just using it as a daily driver. Youd have to redesign the entire vehicle.
Author:  Andy's GT [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:25 pm ]
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when im going to college and need to save money and have a high mileage car with some issues, and have two slants lying around until i need them, it makes sense to ask if its possible... ive already scrapped the idea
Author:  Doctor Dodge [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:48 pm ]
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No harm done, it is always fun to investigate the possibilities.
I have looks at lots of different chassis with the idea of putting Slants into them but after I do some quick measurements, I see that it's not worth all the effort. This applies to many of the newer FWD chassis.

If it is and older RWD car with a decent size engine bay, then a SL6 goes in pretty easy. Some of the conversions I have seen are Slants in the datsun 240Z cars, the Mercedes, many older F@%& and Chebby Pick-ups and even a Aston Martin DB5 :shock:
DD
Author:  leaningtowerofpower [ Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:41 pm ]
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where this swap may sound like puttin 10,000 in the glovebox and crushing the car, putting the slant in an aston martin is like puttin 20,000 on the roof and then drive'n around town for an hour. :x
Author:  Matt Cramer [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:40 am ]
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"theres lots of room"?
The slant is much too long.
There is NO TUNNEL for the transmission, driveshaft, etc.
The front suspension will be overloaded by several hundred pounds.
The radiator opening is too small.
There is nothing substantial to tie the rear suspension into.
It has no brakes and no springs.
I'm not sure about several of those things. The Talon was available as an all wheel drive, 200 hp car. Consequently, it does have a location for the driveshaft, the parts for a rear suspension can be found with enough junkyard crawling, and there's definitely adequate airflow to cool it. And we're talking about a car about as heavy as an A-body (surprisingly). On the other hand, I can't picture the slant fitting in using a north-south layout without hacking out the firewall. And adapting a slant six to a front wheel drive sounds like way too much custom fabrication for no clear benefit. I have seen nutball engine swaps pulled off on low budgets (one guy at the Grassroots Motorsports $2004 Challenge built a sub-$2004 V8 powered, RWD CRX, while another guy transplanted a complete Supra suspensio into a '65 Mustang). But they also take obsessive amounts of work to get them done right.

This might make an interesting drag car idea, perhaps to take advantage of some sort of racing class's engine swapping rules. Not a good choice for a daily driver.
Author:  johnnysix [ Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:41 pm ]
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I once installed a 225 1barrell into my old mans 70 Cadillac Fleetwood Broughm...Worked fine until I realized that she topped out at about 30mph.!!!!!!You gotta b kiddin'me ,right???
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