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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:26 pm 
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I tried to apply my supersix sticker today and wound up screwing it up. I will have to order another one from Jim Osborn.

My question is, what can I use to make the sticker application easier. Is there something that I can spray onto the aircleaner lid to allow me to properly position the sticker and get all of the wrinkles out?

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Use soapy water, then squeegy (or otherwise) work it out.

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Thanks.

How hard is it to squeege out?

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Have you tryed with 3M spray decal glue? (sorry, don´t know correct name in english), that one let you take over the stiker a couple times before it glues for good.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:54 pm 
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The sticker comes with sticky stuff already on it.

I have some 3M spray adhesive. We are discussing its many uses here

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Dennis, if the decal is already self-adhesive, would soapy water defeat the purpose of the glue? I'm glad this question came up, because I have one of those decals, and I need to get it on the air cleaner this week.

This might be worth a message to Jim Osborn.

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Ok, sorry men.

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Soapy water can indeed prevent the stickum from sticking. I'm guessing when you say you "screwed up" the decal, that it wound up getting wrinkled and sticking to itself, like packing tape while you're trying to tape up boxes.

To avoid this, after cleaning the surface thoroughly, usually with rubbing alcohol, I usually apply stickers by peeling off only a "wedge" of the backing paper, sticking just that small exposed area down where it's supposed to be, then flexing the sticker and removing more of the backing paper—or all of it, depending on how big and complex the shape of the sticker—and working my way around the sticker with the (clean) edge of a credit card as an application squeegee to apply even pressure and prevent bubbles or wrinkles.

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Ditto what Dan said about small areas at a time. Jeb, I looked at my decal last night and noticed that, when lying flat, its free ends do not come together to complete the circle. I suspect (and actually tried this) that the slight convex shape of the air cleaner lid will cause enough distortion in the decal to get it to close up at the ends.

The answer, I believe, is to position the decal (dry and with backing intact), tape one side down (mid-point to the end) to prevent movement, fold back opposite end, remove paper backing on that side only, apply decal (working from mid-point towards free end), place salvaged paper backing on top of decal for protection and press firmly to eliminate air bubbles, untape second half of decal, take note of how well decal closes up gap while lying loosely, fold back and remove remainder of paper backing, manipulate second half of decal (working from mid-point towards free end) such that ends close up gap, use paper backing again to press out any air bubbles, stand back and admire job well done. 8)

At least, that's what I'm going to try.

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The soapy water technique works great on body decals, haven't tried it yet on an a/c decal, but I would think the physics would be the same, as long as it is going on a smooth surface. Test-fit and little-as-you-go works real well, too. That's what I usually do with a/c decals and the like, too.

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Ditto what Dan said about small areas at a time. Jeb, I looked at my decal last night and noticed that, when lying flat, its free ends do not come together to complete the circle. I suspect (and actually tried this) that the slight convex shape of the air cleaner lid will cause enough distortion in the decal to get it to close up at the ends.
Yeah, but that is factory correct.


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I've put on lots of body decals and any window cleaner such as Windex works fine. You can even use a foaming window cleaner if you prefer. The beauty of using the "wet" method is that if you don't like the placement, you do have a second chance to get it right. Once the decal is in place, just let it dry. This method is also a lot better for getting out air bubbles. This is the method they use for the application of window tint film also.

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I've put on lots of body decals and any window cleaner such as Windex works fine. You can even use a foaming window cleaner if you prefer. The beauty of using the "wet" method is that if you don't like the placement, you do have a second chance to get it right. Once the decal is in place, just let it dry. This method is also a lot better for getting out air bubbles. This is the method they use for the application of window tint film also.
But will it work on a sticker/decal that already has adhesive on it?

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Absolutely! In fact I used this method to put on my Super Six decal. Spray the surface with the window cleaner and use a lint free cloth to wipe it clean. Spray the surface a second time and apply your sticker. You can then use the same cloth to wipe the air bubbles and cleaner out from under the sticker. You can use squeegee if you have one. Either way works fine. If the sticker looks like you want it, let it dry. If it doesn't, spray the sticker with the window cleaner again and work it up under the edges, it will loosen back up so you can reposition it. Buy a cheap sticker from Walmart and try it for yourself.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:18 pm 
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Windex (R) is the trick. I put the Super Six decal on Aaron's Dart Sport last week while detailing it out for a car show. Worked great and is still in place. :lol:

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